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| Caracal v Staffordshire Bull Terrier | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 30 2012, 08:39 PM (14,632 Views) | |
| Taipan | Mar 30 2012, 08:39 PM Post #1 |
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Caracal - Caracal caracal The caracal (Caracal caracal, pronounced /ˈkærəkæl/) is a fiercely territorial medium-sized cat ranging over Western Asia, South Asia and Africa. The caracal is distributed over Africa, the Middle East, Pakistan and India. Its chief habitat is dry steppes and semideserts, but it also inhabits woodlands, savannah, and scrub forest. They generally prefer open country, so long as there is sufficient cover, in the form of bushes and rocks, from which to ambush prey. The caracal is a slender, yet muscular, cat, with long legs and a short tail. Males typically weigh 13 to 18 kilograms (29 to 40 lb), while females weigh about 11 kilograms (24 lb). The caracal resembles a Eurasian Lynx, and for a long time it was considered a close relative of the lynxes. It has a tail nearly a third of its body length, and both sexes look the same. The caracal is 65 to 90 centimetres (26 to 35 in) in length, with a 30 centimetres (12 in) tail. Compared to lynxes, it has longer legs, shorter fur, and a slimmer appearance. ![]() Staffordshire Bull Terrier The Staffordshire Bull Terrier (informally: Staffie, Stafford, Staffy or Staff) is a medium-sized, short-coated, old-time breed of dog. It is an English dog, where it is the 5th most popular breed, and related to the bull terrier. Having descended from dog-fighting ancestors, it is muscular and courageous. It is the subject of breed specific legislation in some jurisdictions. The Staffordshire Bull Terrier is a medium-sized, stocky, and very muscular dog with strong athletic ability, with a similar appearance to the American Staffordshire terrier and American pit bull terriers sharing the same ancestor. They have a broad head (male considerably more than female), defined occipital muscles, a relatively short foreface, dark round eyes and a wide mouth with a clean scissor-like bite (the top incisors slightly overlap the bottom incisors). The ears are small. The cheek muscles are very pronounced. Their lips show no looseness. From above, the head loosely resembles a triangle. The head tapers down to a strong well-muscled neck and shoulders placed on squarely spaced forelimbs. They are tucked up in their loins and the last 1-2 ribs of their ribcage are usually visible. Their tail resembles an old fashioned pump handle. Their hind quarters are well-muscled and are what give the Stafford drive when baiting. They are coloured brindle, black, red, fawn, blue, white, or any blending of these colors with white. White with any other colour broken up over the body is known as pied. Liver-colored, black and tan dogs can occur but are rare. The coat is smooth and clings tightly to the body giving the dog a streamlined appearance.The dogs stand 36 to 42 cm (14 to 17 in) at the withers and weigh 14 to 18 kg (31 to 40 lb) for males; bitches are 11 to 15.4 kg (24 to 34 lb). ![]() ___________________________________________________________________
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| Vita | Feb 15 2013, 05:26 AM Post #91 |
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Lynx is also a "mixed" prey specialist. Did it slip your mind? Let me refresh it: Eurasian Lynx: 6.67% Caracal: 7.55% Coyote: 8.05% And that account of a caracal fending off two random dogs means nothing. A caracal facing a staff would have more severe injuries, not just a small bite. Remember the account of the two pitbull terriers and the coyote? The coyote received more than a "small bite" from two dogs. And they were just two family dogs with no prior experience with such predators. Not to mention at least that account had more details. We know nothing of the dogs involved. You claimed that cats are better designed as fighters, yet many of the small and intermediate prey specialists lack characteristics seen in more formidable fighters. e.q. robustness, the ability to grapple with mouth (wider jaw gape), endurance, and durability. The ability to grapple with your limbs is an advantage if the animal is at least somewhat stronger than its opponent. Edited by Vita, Feb 16 2013, 06:04 AM.
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| Bull and Terrier | Feb 15 2013, 06:42 AM Post #92 |
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Like K9Crocuta said, the bite of a apbt and sbt would be about the same, this also is supported by the width of the skull of both, and the fact that they are basically the same dog if you have working lines from both. So I think we can agree that the sbt has a stronger bite, that could do much damage, while the caracal have a not as powerful bite, but are good at killing. You can also see that large caracals can bring down and kill quite impressive prey for their size, while sbt have done huge damages too animals such as donkeys and horses, not dying at the scene, but later from the damages. The diffrence from the caracal surviving the attack from the two dogs, is that was probably not determinded dogs. A sbt would be very determinded, and would do not stop it's attack because of powerful attacks, the caracals neck also looks quite thin, and a bite from a sbt there would probably kill it fast, while the sbt's neck is very powerful and thick, which probably would make it difficult for the caracal to kill it fast. Here you have an example of an how an sbt do damage to 110pound bull arab (wild boar dog), which a friend of the owners told me. They accident pmsl was that a Bull Arab 110lb plus dog got hit by a annoyed stafford that proceeded to try to get as much of the BA's throat between his jaws as he could get. The owner of the BA tried separating the dogs then and put his hands where he shouldn't have but it that most likely saved his dogs life. Took them 10 minutes to get the stafford off and the BA was pretty badly worked over. There was another dog that also was also involved but it ran for it's life and hid under the house and had to be dragged out. They don't bring their dogs onto the property anymore unless they are in cages, as the stafford has the run of the property. It is difficult to prove, but I don't think it's any doubt that a sbt is much stronger, maybe exept for it's back legs. http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/artikkel.php?artid=10046067 In Europe, actually a sbt from southern Norway is the strongest dog pound for pound, not a apbt. Here is the article, it is a small bitch at only 13kg, dragging 80 times her weight as her personal record, 1180kg. Very impressive! Three-year at 13 kg pull at least 80 times their own body weight. Now Lexi officially Europe's strongest dog. AP follows The animals Staffordshire bull terrier when hardly Joakim Helleland (24) of the knees, but exceeds the owner of strength. During the European Championships in dog trekking in Finland recently Lexi officially Europe's strongest dog in his weight class, having drawn the entire 592 kilograms after themselves. - It was fun and exciting to win against so many talented dogs, says Joakim Helleland to VG Nett. The win was first described by Solabladet. MAKES EVERYTHING: Three-year-old Lexi has a personal best to pull of 1180 kg. Here she is participating in dog pull-NM. PHOTO: CAMILLA R. Svanberg Borgersen New competitive branch Dog Trekking - as are dog sports answers to tractor pulling - was established in North America in 1984. The European League was established in 2007. Competition is that the four-legged pulling a heavy wagon on gravel or shine from start to finish. The distance is five meters. The dogs are motivated by dog owners who stand at the finish line and cheer. - Lexi loves to draw. I just have to make sure she is well trained and motivated, says Joakim. He does through systematic exercise, play and pulling chains. - I learned about dog moves on. When I got Lexi she saw the gear that it was just a matter of time, he said. PROUD: I was proud and happy when Lexi won the European Championship, says Joakim Helleland. PHOTO: PRIVATE Lexis personal record is a load on the entire 1180 kg. It was 80 times their own body weight. In addition to winning the European Championship in Finland, in his weight class, Lexi has the most points overall in the year among all dogs participating in Europe. So far this year she has won all the races except one, when she came in second place. So she sits on top of the list. - Lexi does everything he Alexander Holtan Aulisether is the main judge in Norway for the dog moves. He has seen Lexi and Joakim winning contest after contest year. - Sukssessformelen is that Lexi does all of Joakim, and he does everything for Lexi. The collaboration is everything and it is beautiful to look at, say Aulisether. - Lexi just do not know what stop is. She continues to give everything anyway. So she wins every time. - Is not it cruel to dogs to need so heavily? - No, the dogs love it. Not all dogs love to draw, so this competition is not for everyone. If we see that your dog does not like to draw, they will not participate. There shall be no coercion, and it is not allowed to use treats to lure them. Everything should be voluntary, he said. While I think a normal sized sbt male 18-20kg, would take out a caracal with damages from claws, but not deadly. I think the caracal has a chance at parity, maybe 70/30 to the sbt in my opinion. A male caracal at 18kg would probably take most female sbt's. Edited by Bull and Terrier, Feb 15 2013, 06:51 AM.
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| Vivyx | Jun 5 2013, 01:41 AM Post #93 |
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Felines, sharks, birds, arthropods
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Is that all you can do? Just simply stating that a cat will win in a fight between a dog just because it's a cat? I have already edited my post in favour of the terrier, and as I said in my post: It's more muscular, has the better bite, has the aggression and durability advantage. I'm a cat person btw, and would want to support the caracal here, but I really cannot deny the supremacy of the terrier here. Edited by Vivyx, Jun 11 2017, 03:26 AM.
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| Vivyx | Feb 21 2014, 12:25 AM Post #94 |
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Felines, sharks, birds, arthropods
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Edited by Vivyx, Jun 11 2017, 03:24 AM.
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