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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 10 2012, 10:22 PM (20,539 Views) | |
| Taipan | Apr 10 2012, 10:22 PM Post #1 |
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Red Fox - Vulpes vulpes The red fox (Vulpes vulpes) is the largest of the true foxes, as well as being the most geographically spread member of the Carnivora, being distributed across the entire northern hemisphere from the Arctic Circle to North Africa, Central America and the steppes of Asia. Its range has increased alongside human expansion, having been introduced to Australia, where it is considered harmful to native mammal and bird populations. Red foxes have elongated bodies and relatively short limbs. The tail, which is longer than half the body length (70% of head and body length), is long, fluffy and reaches the ground when in a standing position. Red foxes are the largest species of the genus Vulpes. However, relative to dimensions, red foxes are much lighter than similarly sized dogs of the Canis genus. Their limb bones, for example, weigh 30% less per unit area of bone than expected for similarly sized dogs. They display significant individual, sexual, age and geographical variation in size. On average, adults measure 35–50 cm (14–20 in) high at the shoulder and 45 to 90 cm (18 to 35 in) in body length with tails measuring 30 to 63 in (760 to 1,600 mm). The ears measure 7.7–12.5 cm (3–5 in) and the hind feet 12–18.5 cm (5–7 in). They weigh 2.2 to 14 kg (4.9 to 31 lb), with vixens typically weighing 15–20% less than males. ![]() Common Raccoon - Procyon lotor The raccoon, Procyon lotor (sometimes spelled as 'racoon'), also known as the common raccoon, North American raccoon, northern raccoon and colloquially as coon, is a medium-sized mammal native to North America. The body weight of an adult raccoon varies considerably with habitat; it can range from 2 to 14 kilograms (4 to 30 lb), but is usually between 3.5 and 9 kilograms (8 and 20 lb). The smallest specimens are found in Southern Florida, while those near the northern limits of the raccoon's range tend to be the largest. Males are usually 15 to 20% heavier than females. At the beginning of winter, a raccoon can weigh twice as much as in spring because of fat storage. It is one of the most variably sized of all mammals. The largest recorded wild raccoon weighed 28.4 kg (62.6 lb) and measured 140 cm (55 in) in total length, by far the largest size recorded for a procyonid. The raccoon is usually nocturnal and is omnivorous, with a diet consisting of about 40% invertebrates, 33% plant foods, and 27% vertebrates. It has a grayish coat, of which almost 90% is dense underfur, which insulates against cold weather. Two of its most distinctive features are its extremely dexterous front paws and its facial mask, which are themes in the mythology of several Native American tribes. Raccoons are noted for their intelligence, with studies showing that they are able to remember the solution to tasks up to three years later. ![]() _____________________________________________________________________________
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| Canidae | Apr 10 2012, 11:02 PM Post #2 |
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Whilst in the last one I spent considerable time trying to decipher which pixel was the Raccoon and which pixel was the Fox, from those I conclude that the Fox is the fairly dominant species over the raccoon and the most likely outcome is the bandit getting treed. Should it stay and fight and the two are of similar weights, I make it around 50 / 50 but with a certain edge to the Red Fox: both can take reasonable prey, have killed other carnivorans with regularity and can be quite aggressive. Will update a little later with info on bites and weaponry. |
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| DinosaurMichael | Apr 10 2012, 11:04 PM Post #3 |
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50/50. Raccoons can be quite nasty and aren't pushovers. So I give the Raccoon a slight edge since Red Foxes are used to taking on smaller animals. |
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| Canidae | Apr 10 2012, 11:58 PM Post #4 |
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Looking at bite forces the Fox's is considerably higher and so may do quite a bit of damage per bite. Whilst raccoons have survived young Cougar attacks and beat up Pitbulls, Red Foxes mothers have fought off terriers and killed an Alsatian, so i'd say they have the most killing potential. Also, at max weights a freak coyote-sized fox would definitley take it! I wonder slightly on Raccoon claws though, they look very sharp and curved and could have potential to do damage, but if they lethal enough to inflict a serious wound I'm unsure on. Edited by Canidae, Apr 11 2012, 12:00 AM.
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| Ophiophagy | Apr 11 2012, 01:26 AM Post #5 |
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domestic cats dominate foxes but coons dominate them both |
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| Canidae | Apr 11 2012, 03:35 AM Post #6 |
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They don't dominate Foxes, just look at the videos. |
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| zombie | Apr 11 2012, 04:13 AM Post #7 |
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I think cat parity, the coon wins, they are usually on the defensive but they can get very agressive if forced to fight. I feel that they are more powerfully built. foxes with good weight advantage should win though. |
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| k9boy | Apr 11 2012, 04:51 AM Post #8 |
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Ive seen both animals quite close up, ive also seen both animals fight against dogs, it takes dogs a while to kill a coon, while killing a fox is a piece of cake. |
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| Ophiophagy | Apr 11 2012, 07:49 AM Post #9 |
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yeah look at the video the cat wins every time it chaes the fox ALWAYS FOOL |
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| FelinePowah | Apr 11 2012, 08:02 AM Post #10 |
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And the fox always chases the raccoons |
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| Sicilianu | Apr 11 2012, 08:07 AM Post #11 |
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Fox gets the age. It appears to be too agile based on the videos I looked at. The foxes longer mouth may also be an advantage in staying out of reach of the raccoon. Certainly at max weights for both it would be a close one. |
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| k9boy | Apr 12 2012, 02:11 AM Post #12 |
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Raccoons are also alot bigger then foxes, and probably stronger |
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| Ophiophagy | Apr 12 2012, 07:44 AM Post #13 |
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coons in the videos are all youngers look how small they are the adults i have seen is twice the size of any fox they are beasts |
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| Madmustelid | Apr 12 2012, 08:58 AM Post #14 |
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Most of the time, I'd say 50/50, but on some rare occasions, the Raccoon takes this. It's known to kill -usually by drowing 'em in water- Coondogs. |
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| k9boy | Apr 12 2012, 09:29 AM Post #15 |
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the fox would just be overwhelmed by the raccoons ferocious attacks. |
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