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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 10 2012, 10:22 PM (20,542 Views) | |
| Taipan | Apr 10 2012, 10:22 PM Post #1 |
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Red Fox - Vulpes vulpes The red fox (Vulpes vulpes) is the largest of the true foxes, as well as being the most geographically spread member of the Carnivora, being distributed across the entire northern hemisphere from the Arctic Circle to North Africa, Central America and the steppes of Asia. Its range has increased alongside human expansion, having been introduced to Australia, where it is considered harmful to native mammal and bird populations. Red foxes have elongated bodies and relatively short limbs. The tail, which is longer than half the body length (70% of head and body length), is long, fluffy and reaches the ground when in a standing position. Red foxes are the largest species of the genus Vulpes. However, relative to dimensions, red foxes are much lighter than similarly sized dogs of the Canis genus. Their limb bones, for example, weigh 30% less per unit area of bone than expected for similarly sized dogs. They display significant individual, sexual, age and geographical variation in size. On average, adults measure 35–50 cm (14–20 in) high at the shoulder and 45 to 90 cm (18 to 35 in) in body length with tails measuring 30 to 63 in (760 to 1,600 mm). The ears measure 7.7–12.5 cm (3–5 in) and the hind feet 12–18.5 cm (5–7 in). They weigh 2.2 to 14 kg (4.9 to 31 lb), with vixens typically weighing 15–20% less than males. ![]() Common Raccoon - Procyon lotor The raccoon, Procyon lotor (sometimes spelled as 'racoon'), also known as the common raccoon, North American raccoon, northern raccoon and colloquially as coon, is a medium-sized mammal native to North America. The body weight of an adult raccoon varies considerably with habitat; it can range from 2 to 14 kilograms (4 to 30 lb), but is usually between 3.5 and 9 kilograms (8 and 20 lb). The smallest specimens are found in Southern Florida, while those near the northern limits of the raccoon's range tend to be the largest. Males are usually 15 to 20% heavier than females. At the beginning of winter, a raccoon can weigh twice as much as in spring because of fat storage. It is one of the most variably sized of all mammals. The largest recorded wild raccoon weighed 28.4 kg (62.6 lb) and measured 140 cm (55 in) in total length, by far the largest size recorded for a procyonid. The raccoon is usually nocturnal and is omnivorous, with a diet consisting of about 40% invertebrates, 33% plant foods, and 27% vertebrates. It has a grayish coat, of which almost 90% is dense underfur, which insulates against cold weather. Two of its most distinctive features are its extremely dexterous front paws and its facial mask, which are themes in the mythology of several Native American tribes. Raccoons are noted for their intelligence, with studies showing that they are able to remember the solution to tasks up to three years later. ![]() _____________________________________________________________________________
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| Madmustelid | Apr 12 2012, 09:33 AM Post #16 |
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Plus it wouldn't be able to handle these:
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| Lycaon | Apr 12 2012, 10:45 AM Post #17 |
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I like the fox more, but a coon is just to much for it. Coons can take a horrible beating is the attacker is neither relentless of skilled in securing a skull or throat bite. The tables can easily turn for the worse for the fox the longer the fight goes on. Ironic as the canid usually hops superior when it comes to stamina. The fox on the other hand is more fragile but possess the better bite force and teeth. This is a fight where I would consider the raccoons limbs to be useful and the trump card of the fight. Unlike terriers that just muscle and shove into battle, or small felines that can claw and rake; the fox will not being using its limbs much aside from dodging and weaving. When the fight gets tough and physical the coon can take the beating and bring enough damage to the fight to leave the fox to wounded to fight or crippled, perhaps outright dead. |
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| Deleted User | Oct 29 2012, 11:48 AM Post #18 |
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maybe the fox could use it's speed advantage and bite the raccoon to death.. but in these case none of these animals would have killed another. think they are mostly doing display's and try to force each other away. but found a clip who show's the speed of an red fox it's short but great! go to 1,27 and enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYUWFCoCD50&list=LLVuDhnLd4CU8BHz7TKykLJA&feature=mh_lolz |
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| Vivyx | Dec 21 2012, 01:08 AM Post #19 |
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Raccoons are very aggressive and are capable of almost killing larger dogs by almost drowning them. And while foxes are pretty fast and agile, the Raccoon is as well. Raccoons are also very durable, I don't think the red fox would be able to handle a raccoon. Raccoon 8/10.
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| Rashido | Dec 21 2012, 03:15 AM Post #20 |
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I see the fox running circles around the raccoon, dodging all it's attacks and winning through attrition. The raccoon can take a beating, but at the same time it can't catch the fox. Fox 6/10. |
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| Vivec | Dec 21 2012, 04:23 AM Post #21 |
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The Fox is bigger on average and some have even killed small dear before, the Raccoon shouldn't be underestimated but it wouldn't be able to deal a killing bite unlike the Fox. |
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| Rashido | Dec 21 2012, 03:25 PM Post #22 |
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I agree. Do you have a source for the deer killing by any chance? |
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| Vivyx | Dec 29 2012, 05:20 AM Post #23 |
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But you forgot that raccoons are extremely durable and can survive dogs. That's why I favour the raccoon. |
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| Vivec | Dec 29 2012, 05:57 AM Post #24 |
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If a dog is hellbent on killing the Raccoon then it can and will, not to mention I can't see them getting any fatal bites or wounds in. |
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| Vivec | Dec 29 2012, 05:58 AM Post #25 |
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| Ophiophagy | Dec 29 2012, 09:17 AM Post #26 |
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this is so stupid a big boar coon would kill a coyote |
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| k9boy | Dec 29 2012, 09:30 AM Post #27 |
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No.....A 30lb coyote would wreck a 30lb coon. |
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| Carcharadon | Dec 29 2012, 10:10 AM Post #28 |
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| Vivec | Dec 29 2012, 10:15 AM Post #29 |
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Are you kidding me? A Raccoon would be utterly dominated by a Coyote. |
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| Ophiophagy | Dec 30 2012, 03:31 AM Post #30 |
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no a coon will kill a coyote the same size of it in seconds if you dont think so you know nothing. A 30 pound coyote never has and never will take on a big boar coon by itself it would crap itself at the site of one. A 20 pound coyote will never bother a big male coon. you will never find one that has ever. It just never happens cause the coon will kill it. Coyotes can gang up on one a big male once in a blue moon usually even in groups they wil leave a huge male alone and let it feed with them. You guys have no idea how stuff works. Coyotes will go after a red fox no matter size sex or age but NEVER a big male coon EVER. By themsleves. A coyote would never DARE. They are on the same rank level as far as aggression power goes. The coon will attack a coyote if it gets to close or on its nerves. wolves Lions and eagles are pretty much the only thing that kill big boar coons. Edited by Ophiophagy, Dec 30 2012, 03:35 AM.
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