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African Lion v Baurusuchus
Topic Started: Apr 10 2012, 10:42 PM (13,331 Views)
Taipan
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African Lion - Panthera leo
The lion (Panthera leo) is one of the four big cats in the genus Panthera, and a member of the family Felidae. With some males exceeding 250 kg (550 lb) in weight, it is the second-largest living cat after the tiger. Wild lions currently exist in Sub-Saharan Africa and in Asia with an endangered remnant population in Gir Forest National Park in India, having disappeared from North Africa and Southwest Asia in historic times. Until the late Pleistocene, about 10,000 years ago, the lion was the most widespread large land mammal after humans. They were found in most of Africa, across Eurasia from western Europe to India, and in the Americas from the Yukon to Peru. The lion is a vulnerable species, having seen a possibly irreversible population decline of thirty to fifty percent over the past two decades in its African range. The African lion is a very large cat, with males weighing between 330 and 550 pounds and females weighing between 260 and 400 pounds. It is 8 to 10 feet long, not including the tail. Its most famous feature is its mane, which only male lions have. The mane is a yellow color when the lion is young and darkens with age. Eventually, the mane will be dark brown. The body of the African lion is well suited for hunting. It is very muscular, with back legs designed for pouncing and front legs made for grabbing and knocking down prey. It also has very strong jaws that enable it to eat the large prey that it hunts.

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Baurusuchus pachechoi
Baurusuchus is an extinct genus of baurusuchid mesoeucrocodylian from the Late Cretaceous of Brazil. It was a terrestrial predator and scavenger, about 3.5 to 4 meters long. Baurusuchus lived during the Turonian to Santonian stages (90-83.5 million years ago) of the Late Cretaceous Period, in Adamantina Formation, Brazil. It gets its name from the Brazilian Bauru Group ("Bauru crocodile"). It was related to the earlier-named Cynodontosuchus rothi, which was smaller, with weaker dentition (Bonaparte, 1996). The three species are B. pachechoi (Price, 1945), B. salgadoensis (Carvalho et al., 2005) (named after General Salgado County in São Paulo, Brazil) and B. albertoi (Nascimento & Zaher, 2010) (named after Dr. Alberto Barbosa de Carvalho, Brazilian paleontologist). Its relatives include the similarly-sized Stratiotosuchus from the Adamantina Formation, and Pabweshi, from the Pakistani Pab Formation. Prehistoric crocodiles weren't necessarily restricted to river environments; the fact is that these ancient reptiles could be every bit as diverse as their dinosaur cousins when it came to their habitats and lifestyles. Baurusuchus is an excellent example; this South American crocodile, which lived during the middle-to-late Cretaceous period, possessed long, dog-like legs and a heavy, powerful skull with the nostrils placed on the end, indications that it actively prowled the early pampas rather than snapping at prey from bodies of water. By the way, the similarity of Baurusuchus to another land-dwelling crocodile from Pakistan is further proof that the Indian subcontinent was once joined to the giant southern continent of Gondwana. Size and Weight: About 12 feet long and 500 pounds

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Eotyrannus
Apr 10 2012, 08:28 AM
Lion VS. Baurosuchus, please.
Edited by Taipan, Jul 11 2017, 12:26 PM.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK4r-1BnTXA

jag killing caiman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu1by5-BpTA

another one

here's a video of a lion bringing down a young elephant that can move better than this reptile on land with equally tough hide plus it's most likely more than 200 kg. and the lion isn't even a prime male

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp9EC4tS-Q0

this proofs nothing
A: the jaguar killed the caiman by ambush and this caiman is smaller then the jaguar
B: pound for pound the jaguar is stronger then the lion
C: the Baurusuchus is much faster then the caiman and this is not ambush by lion
D: lion bring down young elephant with short almost useless tusk proofs nothing
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a crocodilian that is robustly built And made for terrestrial locomotion fighting a lion. its a close match, but the crocodilian wins the majority
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Reptile needs to be twice bigger than big cat for having little chance to win
female tigress fought and killed 500 pounds+ croc
why not lion could not?
big cats are perfect apex predator, adding power, agility, bite power, speed...
on land, reptile avoid big cats and even on water, big cats can fight reptiles (saltwater croc that killed anorexic sunderban tigress after couple hours of battle under water)
only silly people favor the reptile because it looks terrific according picture
eh its only picture! in fact crocs avoid lions on land, lion avoid croc on water aswell only due their lack of swimming skill (e.h tigers/jaguars dont fear crocs in the water)
Edited by acmilan, Feb 25 2014, 02:40 PM.
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I slightly back the lion IMO
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People seem to forget this animal has hardly anything to do with a Crocodile, its legs are totally different in build and its anatomy is far different.
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Reptile needs to be twice bigger than big cat for having little chance to win


A hypothetical Baurusuchus-like animal twice as heavy would mop the floor with a big cat.


I'm still not 100% sure of Baurusuchus' size.
Edited by Ausar, Feb 26 2014, 06:36 AM.
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Feb 26 2014, 06:35 AM
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Reptile needs to be twice bigger than big cat for having little chance to win


A hypothetical Baurusuchus-like animal twice as heavy would mop the floor with a big cat.


I'm still not 100% sure of Baurusuchus' size.
Average male lions between 380-420 pounds, 440-460 pounds for bigger ones
less than 100 pounds of difference, not that much imo
Baurusuchus is just sightly larger than an average male lion
if you switch to the tiger, some tigers are even heavier at average than this reptile
i definitely favor Lion over Baurusuchus
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Feb 26 2014, 03:29 PM
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Feb 26 2014, 06:35 AM
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Reptile needs to be twice bigger than big cat for having little chance to win


A hypothetical Baurusuchus-like animal twice as heavy would mop the floor with a big cat.


I'm still not 100% sure of Baurusuchus' size.
Average male lions between 380-420 pounds, 440-460 pounds for bigger ones
less than 100 pounds of difference, not that much imo
Baurusuchus is just sightly larger than an average male lion
if you switch to the tiger, some tigers are even heavier at average than this reptile
i definitely favor Lion over Baurusuchus
I'm just talking about a hypothetical Baurusuchus-like animal "twice as heavy", not the actual animal itself, as you (erroneously) mentioned it needs to be twice as big to stand a chance. Honestly, you're stupid if you think a predator can even so much as be a match for another predator (especially a formidable one and in its element) that's twice as massive.
I think Baurusuchus marginally wins at weight parity due to greater durability (osteoderms) and a larger head with deadlier fangs (the dentition is ziphodont and baurusuchids have large caniniforms). But if the croc really was ~80-100kg, then the lion curbstomps.
Edited by Ausar, Nov 15 2014, 11:41 PM.
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