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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 13 2012, 09:44 PM (4,312 Views) | |
| Taipan | Apr 13 2012, 09:44 PM Post #1 |
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Leopard - Panthera pardus The leopard, Panthera pardus, is a member of the Felidae family and the smallest of the four "big cats" in the genus Panthera, the other three being the tiger, lion, and jaguar. The leopard was once distributed across eastern and southern Asia and Africa, from Siberia to South Africa, but its range of distribution has decreased radically because of hunting and loss of habitat. It is now chiefly found in sub-Saharan Africa; there are also fragmented populations in Indonesia, Pakistan, India, Sri Lanka, Indochina, Malaysia, and China. Because of its declining range and population, it is listed as a "Near Threatened" species by the IUCN. Leopard are agile and stealthy predators. Although smaller than other members of the Panthera genus, they are able to take large prey due to their massive skulls that facilitate powerful jaw muscles. Head and body length is between 125 and 165 cm (49 and 65 in), and the tail reaches 60 to 110 cm (24 to 43 in). Shoulder height is 45 to 80 cm (18 to 31 in). The muscles attached to the scapula are exceptionally strong, which enhance their ability to climb trees. They show a great diversity in size. Males are about 30% larger than females, weighing 30 to 91 kg (66 to 200 lb) compared to 23 to 60 kg (51 to 130 lb) for females. Large males of up to 91 lb (41 kg) have been documented in Kruger National Park in South Africa; however, males in the South Africa's coastal mountains average 31 lb (14 kg). This wide variation in size is thought to result from the quality and availability of prey found in each habitat. Smaller sized leopards also are known in the deserts of the Middle East. Its body is comparatively long, and its legs are short. ![]() Bornean Orangutan - Pongo pygmaeus The Bornean orangutan, Pongo pygmaeus, is a species of orangutan native to the island of Borneo. Together with the Sumatran orangutan, it belongs to the only genus of great apes native to Asia. The Bornean orangutan has a distinctive body shape with very long arms that may reach up to two metres in length. They have a coarse, shaggy reddish coat[8] and grasping hands and feet. They are highly sexually dimorphic, with adult males being distinguished by their large size, throat pouch and flanges on either side of the face, known as cheek pads. The Bornean orangutan has a life span of up to 35 years in the wild; in captivity it can live to be 60. A survey of wild orangutans found that males weigh on average 75 kilograms (170 lb), ranging from 50–100 kilograms (110–220 lb), and 1.2–1.4 metres (3.9–4.6 ft) long; females average 38.5 kilograms (85 lb), ranging from 30–50 kilograms (66–110 lb), and 1–1.2 metres (3.3–3.9 ft) long. ![]() ___________________________________________________________________
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| Neofelis | Apr 13 2012, 09:48 PM Post #2 |
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The Orangutan will put up a good fight but it will probably lose in the end. Here, the ape loses it's big size advantage and is only about maybe 10 or 20 pounds heavier than the leopard. Leopard wins 60/40. |
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| Arctodus Simus | Apr 13 2012, 11:55 PM Post #3 |
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This is another close fight IMO. The Orangutan has strong arms and quite a lot of bite-strength which is probably as strong as a Leopard's. But the Leopard is very quick has some razor sharp claws and would probably win because of that. I'd say this is a 60/40 fight to the Leopard. |
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| Gregoire | Apr 13 2012, 11:57 PM Post #4 |
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Average male leopard 60 kg vs average male ape 75 kg 72/25 leopard wins. |
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| DinosaurMichael | Apr 14 2012, 01:06 AM Post #5 |
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Yeah I'd support a Silverback Gorilla against a Leopard, but the Orangutan doesn't have much hope. Leopard wins this. |
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| Rodentsofunusualsize | Apr 14 2012, 02:34 AM Post #6 |
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The Leopard definitely wins, but it would have some nasty injuries. The claws are too damaging against ape skin, if the Orangutan had thicker skin and was more aggressive I'd back it, but it doesn't. |
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| k9boy | Apr 14 2012, 05:00 AM Post #7 |
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The cat will maul the crap out of an orangutang, i'd even back a chimp over an orangutang |
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| Vita | Apr 14 2012, 06:40 AM Post #8 |
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A chimp would be a worse choice. It is safe to say a gorilla would fair a lot better. |
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| Canidae | Apr 14 2012, 07:05 AM Post #9 |
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From personnal observation of captive / semi-wild Orangutans in Kalimantan where they were at a higher density then fully wild specimens they can be vicious in intraspecific fights. But here I strongly back the the Leopard for my usual reasons on feline vs. ape. |
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| Cat | Apr 14 2012, 07:33 AM Post #10 |
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Hehe... where is Nothing00 when you need him? LOL I'm not sure, but I think the Orangutan is quite underrated and would give a hard fight to a leopard, and it could kill it. I think an angry Orang would make sausages out of your average chimp, contrary to what many ppl seem to think... |
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| Neofelis | Apr 14 2012, 08:30 AM Post #11 |
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I know that what I was thinking but sadly he got banned. |
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| DinosaurMichael | Apr 14 2012, 08:40 AM Post #12 |
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No he didn't get banned. He asked for his account to get deleted. He wanted to leave. I'll be honest. I didn't think he was bad. He seemed like an alright guy to me. |
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| Elephantus | Oct 12 2012, 06:15 AM Post #13 |
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Orangutan could beat a cape leopard, maybe also an arabian one. Otherwise, it loses badly. |
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| Mauro20 | Oct 12 2012, 06:18 AM Post #14 |
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Leopard wins. |
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| Prathap | Oct 12 2012, 03:12 PM Post #15 |
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When it comes to Bigcats, they are designed and evolved to kill prey animals much larger than themselves. The evolution had made them the perfect hunters, killers and predators. When you see the Bigcats anatomy the are perfectly built and designed for strength, agility, force and speed. Bigcats have powerful retractable claws which helps them to grapple and hold on to prey and bring them down, they have much powerful bit force to suffocate or break the neck or spine of the prey animal. When it comes to leopards, they've been seen killing much bigger prey animals. When it comes to great apes, the orang is a very powerful animal, they have very strong forelimbs. But they share the down sides similar to all great apes. They are not so agile as bigcats, they dont have claws to make serious in injuries by slashing or by holding, they dont have powerful bite force like bigcats, there jaws are not big enough to make a serious injury, the jaws of the orang is good enough to make some surface injuries but they are not as wide or big as that of a leopard. Orang cant suffocate big prey animals or break there spine or neck with its bite. Orangs like other great apes do have thin skin and surface running blood vessels, this makes them much more vulnerable when encountering a leopard. I would say the leopard would win most of the time. |
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