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| Eurasian Lynx v 2 Velociraptors | |
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| Topic Started: Apr 26 2012, 08:52 PM (1,147 Views) | |
| Taipan | Apr 26 2012, 08:52 PM Post #1 |
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Eurasian Lynx - Lynx lynx These medium-sized cats have stout bodies, long legs, large feet, and stubby tails. All of these characteristics allow them to move quickly over short distances. Their soft, thick fur is usually some shade of yellow or grayish brown. It is often marked with indistinct pale lines or spots. Their white whiskers frame their muzzle. Most have a kind of collar of long hair around their necks and under their chins. They are distinctivelyfor their prominent ear tufts--long, black hair on the tips of their ears. Eurasian lynx are also said to have a haughty stare. Generally, males are larger and more powerful than females. Size differention probably originated from sexual competition in which only the large and powerful males survived to mate. Mass - 35 - 65 pounds  2 Velociraptor mongoliensis Velociraptor ( /vɨˈlɒsɨræptər/; meaning 'swift seizer')[1] is a genus of dromaeosaurid theropod dinosaur that existed approximately 75 to 71 million years ago during the later part of the Cretaceous Period. Two species are currently recognized, although others have been assigned in the past. The type species is V. mongoliensis; fossils of this species have been discovered in Mongolia. Smaller than other dromaeosaurids like Deinonychus and Achillobator, Velociraptor nevertheless shared many of the same anatomical features. It was a bipedal, feathered carnivore with a long, stiffened tail and an enlarged sickle-shaped claw on each hindfoot, which is thought to have been used to kill its prey. Velociraptor can be distinguished from other dromaeosaurids by its long and low skull, with an upturned snout. Velociraptor was a mid-sized dromaeosaurid, with adults measuring up to 2.07 m (6.8 ft) long, 0.5 m (1.6 ft) high at the hip, and weighing up to 15 kg (33 lb). The skull, which grew up to 25 cm (9.8 in) long, was uniquely up-curved, concave on the upper surface and convex on the lower. The jaws were lined with 26–28 widely spaced teeth on each side, each more strongly serrated on the back edge than the front—possibly an adaptation that improved its ability to catch and hold fast-moving prey.  __________________________________________________________________________
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| Fishfreak | Jun 10 2012, 06:10 PM Post #2 |
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raptors win they are 2 and designed to take down prey up to the size of a pig. rapptors 60/40 |
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| Rammus | Jun 10 2012, 09:04 PM Post #3 |
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I think the velociraptors would win. 2 velciraptor would be too much for the cat. |
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| ShadowPredator | Jun 11 2012, 12:27 AM Post #4 |
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Velociraptors win, there's just to many!... |
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| Rashido | Jun 11 2012, 05:08 AM Post #5 |
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One velociraptor could beat a female lynx, two vs a male is 8/10 raptors. |
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| Gato Gordo | Jun 11 2012, 07:48 AM Post #6 |
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Yes, perhaps two raptors are too much for the lynx, though the lynx would likely abort the attack and flee. However, if it was up to the producers of the piece of sh!t Jurassic Park series, even a baby raptor would annihilate a lion (as in those films all dinosaurs killed anything at ease and no dinosaur was even mildly scratched). |
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| Godzillasaurus | Jun 11 2012, 08:39 AM Post #7 |
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1 velociraptor could easily take down the cat, as it would be larger and more agile. But 1 cat against 2 raptors would be an obvious mismatch in favor of the raptors. |
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| LionClaws | Jun 11 2012, 08:52 AM Post #8 |
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How is up to 15 kg larger than 15-30 kg? |
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| Godzillasaurus | Jun 11 2012, 11:14 AM Post #9 |
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I said LARGER not heavier... |
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| Gato Gordo | Jun 11 2012, 04:28 PM Post #10 |
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Larger size with much lesser weight means less density, or in other words a body with a much lighter built that is less able to resist external forces. The fact that the raptors were bipedal and the lynx is quadrupedal puts serious doubts to your argumentation. Also, it is not evident that the raptors were faster or more agile than a lynx. Also, the lynx is dexterous. Likely, in a one-one match the lynx would charge and would subdue and overrun the raptor. Yes, it could be risky for the lynx, but it would be far more risky for the raptor. Edited by Gato Gordo, Jun 11 2012, 04:29 PM.
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| Swarmlord2012 | Jun 11 2012, 09:33 PM Post #11 |
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You do know that the only thing the Raptors fought in JP was the T.rex and they both died, right? Anyway, the velociraptors win, but one is either fatally wounded or dead. |
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| Superpredator | Jun 12 2012, 04:19 PM Post #12 |
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But you have to remember the JP series overrated the T.rex a fair bit. |
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| Godzillasaurus | Jun 13 2012, 05:00 AM Post #13 |
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I agree that less weight = less density, but knowing how raptors were very advanced predators, it would make it seem like they were very fast and agile. Not to mention how it was 1 cat against 2 raptors. And remember that raptors were very intelligent and had large, sickle-shaped claws. |
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| LionClaws | Jun 13 2012, 05:44 AM Post #14 |
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Raptors are "bogey opponents" for grapplers, because they appear to be able to deal damage from the ground effectively. The fighting dinosaurs fossil gives us an idea of how a raptor would react to being overpowered by a stronger adversary.  The drom would do the following four things: 1: Arch its neck, moving the head back, bringing the lower jaw down to the throat. This makes a nape bite nearly impossible, and a throat bite quite difficult. 2: Sink its foreclaws into the head and neck of its opponent. This gives it a sort of "anchor point." While the range of motion of the drom's arms was limited, the inverse relationship between strength and flexibility means that the animal's forelimbs were likely extremely powerful. The combination of long grappling hooks on the hands and powerful limbs would make the animal's grip quite difficult to dislodge. 3: Sink one or more of the killing claws into the neck/shoulders area of its adversary. This gives it a third anchor point (a fourth, if it uses both killing claws for the purpose), with the other two on the head. Such a grip would be similarly difficult to dislodge. Possibly more so, given the deep penetration the killing claw would have. Not only does this mean that the drom would be essentially locked in position, it means it would be a "four point grappler" of sorts. A limited four point grappler in that it would not be able to control its opponent, but a four point grappler in that it would prevent its foe from effectively controlling it. 4: Attempt to slash out the throat with one of the killing claws. While this would mean letting go of one of its footholds, it would by no means need to let go of both. The killing claw, while certainly useful as a crampon, still appears to have a somewhat "wedge-shaped" or "teardrop-shaped" boney core. This likely, though by no means necessarily, means that the claw had a sharpened ventral edge. Ventral keeling or no ventral keeling, a two-and-a-half inch claw would make an excellent precision weapon for blood-letting. Even a nick to the carotid artery or the jugular vein would kill an adversary quickly. If a <15 kg velociraptor can use this strategy to great effect against a >75 kg protoceratops, I think that a 20 kg cat would be just as vulnerable. At 20 kg, the cat would be of similar strength (in terms of capacity to overpower) and bite efficacy to a 75 kg protoceratops. So I'd be willing to back a single large 15 kg drom against 20 kg cat by a slight margin (55%). Though, a good-sized tom lynx of 30 kg would take the fight quite convincingly (70%). However, whichever way the fight would go one on one, this battle is most certainly not one on one. There are two dromaeosaurs. If the cat overpowers one, the other will attack from the back or flank. Edited by LionClaws, Jun 13 2012, 05:50 AM.
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| FelinePowah | Jun 13 2012, 06:46 AM Post #15 |
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The Cat would grab one raptor and kill it before the other can do enough damage to injure the cat. Its like a lynx facing of to 2 red foxes, the lynx would not be fased. |
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