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| Taipan | May 2 2012, 08:57 PM Post #1 |
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Sarkastodon mongoliensis Sarkastodon is an extinct genus within the family Oxyaenidae that lived during the upper Eocene, approximately 35 million years ago. It was a large, carnivorous animal that lived in what is today Mongolia. It is estimated to have been about 800 kilograms in weight, somewhat bigger than any living bear in average body size and near the maximum possible size for terrestrial carnivorous mammals. It is seen today in animals such as the Kodiak bear, which reaches that size only in captivity. Sarkastodon is assumed to have had a bear-like appearance, though only skulls and jawbones are known. Sarkastodon, like creodonts in general, was probably a hypercarnivore that preyed on large mammals in its range during the Late Eocene, such as brontotheres, chalicotheres, and rhinoceroses. The type specimens of S. mongoliensis are known from Eocene deposits from the Irdin Manha Formation of Mongolia. Additional material referred to Sarkastodon is known from the Ulan Shireb beds (100 miles away from the holotype locality) of Inner Mongolia. These specimens were discovered by Dr. Garber in 1930, on an expedition to the Gobi Desert. ![]() Andrewsarchus mongoliensis Andrewsarchus mongoliensis was a giant mammalian predator of Central Asia and the largest, and most famous member of the mesonychids, a wholly extinct group of prehistoric mammals. The mesonychids were the only known group of ungulates to become carnivorous, and looked vaguely like wolves, with blunt, hoof-like nails instead of claws. Andrewsarchus (Andrews + Greek ἀñ÷üò, "ruler") was named for the famous explorer and fossil hunter Roy Chapman Andrews, who led the expedition on which it was discovered in 1923. Andrewsarchus is known only from an enormous skull (83 cm long and 56 cm wide) and pieces of bone, but the skull's similarity to that of smaller mesonychids suggests that Andrewsarchus had the same wolf-like body on a larger scale. Extrapolating from the body proportions of similar mesonychids, as well as large land mammals in general, Andrewsarchus was most likely about 4–6 metres (13–18 feet) long, standing nearly 2 metres (6 feet) at the shoulder, and weighing well over 1,500 pounds, making it the largest terrestrial carnivorous mammal known to have ever existed. Based on the proportion comparisons to mesonychids and modern day ursids, it is believed that the largest of the Andrewsarchus may have weighed nearly a ton (close to 2,000 pounds, or 907 kg). It is open to debate whether the animal was gracile or robust in build. It should be noted that modern white rhinoceros specimens are much heavier than these figures, though rhino bodies are about as long. ![]() ______________________________________________________________________
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| Megafelis Fatalis | May 4 2012, 06:06 PM Post #2 |
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| ShadowPredator | May 4 2012, 09:24 PM Post #3 |
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So judging by what above this post, I think Andrew will win due to it's bigger stronger bite |
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| tyrannotitan | May 19 2012, 11:08 PM Post #4 |
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Andrewsarchus is the largest mammal carnivore on land |
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| theropod | May 20 2012, 12:31 AM Post #5 |
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No, Arctotherium surpasses it in weight. I think the sarkastodon would have had a stronger built and a superior grabbling ability according to it´s closest relatives, but the laws of Andrewsarcus are just huge and enourmously powerful. Imo 60-70% for Andrewsarcus |
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| yigit05 | Jul 29 2012, 01:05 AM Post #6 |
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andrewsarhus wins stronger bite,size avantage, |
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| jj5893 | Aug 10 2012, 05:52 PM Post #7 |
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All sarkastodon has to do is avoid the skull and grapple it down until andrewsarchus dies |
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| predator66 | Dec 24 2012, 11:24 PM Post #8 |
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I like sarkastodon more but andrew would probably win.30/70 andrew. |
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| SpinoInWonderland | Dec 26 2012, 05:39 PM Post #9 |
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The madness has come back...
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A n d r e w s a r c h u s W i n s |
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| Maarten | Feb 17 2014, 09:01 PM Post #10 |
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well, sarkastodon might be able to control the head of andrewsarchus with it's paws, like bears do and then sarkastodon would use it's jaws to break andrewsarchus's spine or something like that. I would favour sarkastodon |
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| Deleted User | Feb 25 2014, 02:25 PM Post #11 |
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going against everyone and says Sarkastodont wins |
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| ArachnidKid | Mar 4 2014, 03:31 AM Post #12 |
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So Andrews jaw is significantly stronger and a more impressive bite usually always determines the winner so he gets my vote |
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| Hatzegopteryx | Mar 4 2014, 03:51 AM Post #13 |
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Andrewsarchus wins imo. |
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