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Spotted Hyena / Leopard Account compilation; Including the full story behind the 'Leopard kill' image!
Topic Started: May 11 2012, 12:12 AM (30,782 Views)
Kurtz
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Kurtz
Oct 8 2012, 04:24 AM
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Oct 8 2012, 03:00 AM
I'll put the links in. :)

A new video, of a brief skirmish over a kill with some physical contact :

http://vimeo.com/49591614

No idea how to put a vimeo film on here though. :P
Some info on place where filmed?
And what said the ranger/guide at min. 00:14?
Seems to me a young, but very aggressive male leopard, that hasn't yet the power for a decent fight, if is a male in kruger or similar place size.
Anyway the power of that hyena is impressive.
Edited by Kurtz, Oct 8 2012, 10:38 PM.
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Sep 12 2012, 07:48 PM
@ Canidae
Yes.
The spots on the fur of the hyena can vary even due to specimens and subspecies.
Surely that female hyena is fully grown and not smaller than Tugwan male leopard(about 70 kilos).

@ Marc

Is that account from Mala Mala?
this is a young hyena. the fur is gray. and the fur is too long and fluffy. and if you watch the clip you can also see that the hyena is smaller than the leopard. and you can see from the hyenas head to middle of the hyenas neck it's beginning to turn to adult fur. the spotts will not always fade out but this is to little and to gray and the fur is too long to be called an adult hyena and by it's size it is a male ( but not quite sure ).
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Sep 14 2012, 02:39 AM
@ Kurtz - On hyaena weights in the Kruger Park, Pienaar found adults to vary between 140 to 165 lbs (63 - 75 KG). I think 155lbs (70 KG) is the average for Zambian females, 149 lbs (68 KG) for males. (From Kruuk's book.)

Though on their behaviour, Gus Mills reports in the Kruger Park, Spotted Hyaenas scavenge up to 80% of their food (mostly lion kills) and whilst capable of hunting prey as big as buffalo, they are not as aggressive. The scavenging they do is more passive (waiting until lions have finished). They are also more solitary and forage in smaller groups on average. The Lion / hyaena ratio is close to 1:1 and so there is more carrion for hyaenas in the Kruger Park and less incentive to hunt, and possibly fight.

@ Cat - I agree and am waiting for more info. I think the head is missing too.
Though I don't think it looks like a massive specimen?
you'r right about the hyenas weight in Zambia. :) i really can see hyenas have 63-75 kilos at kruger park. my brother is in Zambia right now and are doing reeseartch on hyenas in Zambia, he says that hyenas weight are probably vary from 64 to 77 kg here.
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Oct 27 2012, 08:02 AM
Kurtz
Sep 12 2012, 07:48 PM
@ Canidae
Yes.
The spots on the fur of the hyena can vary even due to specimens and subspecies.
Surely that female hyena is fully grown and not smaller than Tugwan male leopard(about 70 kilos).

@ Marc

Is that account from Mala Mala?
this is a young hyena. the fur is gray. and the fur is too long and fluffy. and if you watch the clip you can also see that the hyena is smaller than the leopard. and you can see from the hyenas head to middle of the hyenas neck it's beginning to turn to adult fur. the spotts will not always fade out but this is to little and to gray and the fur is too long to be called an adult hyena and by it's size it is a male ( but not quite sure ).
That hyena is big, not a male,at least like leopard. And hyenas in kruger do not seem to have so clear spots when old like in other places. Anyway i've seen that footage not one time. I have just epressed my personal opinion on this footage.
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Kurtz
Oct 27 2012, 08:41 AM
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Oct 27 2012, 08:02 AM
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Sep 12 2012, 07:48 PM
@ Canidae
Yes.
The spots on the fur of the hyena can vary even due to specimens and subspecies.
Surely that female hyena is fully grown and not smaller than Tugwan male leopard(about 70 kilos).

@ Marc

Is that account from Mala Mala?
this is a young hyena. the fur is gray. and the fur is too long and fluffy. and if you watch the clip you can also see that the hyena is smaller than the leopard. and you can see from the hyenas head to middle of the hyenas neck it's beginning to turn to adult fur. the spotts will not always fade out but this is to little and to gray and the fur is too long to be called an adult hyena and by it's size it is a male ( but not quite sure ).
That hyena is big, not a male,at least like leopard. And hyenas in kruger do not seem to have so clear spots when old like in other places. Anyway i've seen that footage not one time. I have just epressed my personal opinion on this footage.
sorry you are wrong again. that is a small hyena.... hyenas spotts do not always fade out.. but this hyena's fur is fluffy, and to gray... thats what you should look for in. I can remember reading this discussion and you did say you'r not a hyena expert if i'm not wrong... so my brother are a hyena expert so I trust him, and he did say that this is about a 2 year old hyena. but watch the video clip there you can see the size difference, if this was a big female hyena it would probably keep it's kill...
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Oct 27 2012, 08:37 PM
Kurtz
Oct 27 2012, 08:41 AM
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Oct 27 2012, 08:02 AM
Kurtz
Sep 12 2012, 07:48 PM
@ Canidae
Yes.
The spots on the fur of the hyena can vary even due to specimens and subspecies.
Surely that female hyena is fully grown and not smaller than Tugwan male leopard(about 70 kilos).

@ Marc

Is that account from Mala Mala?
this is a young hyena. the fur is gray. and the fur is too long and fluffy. and if you watch the clip you can also see that the hyena is smaller than the leopard. and you can see from the hyenas head to middle of the hyenas neck it's beginning to turn to adult fur. the spotts will not always fade out but this is to little and to gray and the fur is too long to be called an adult hyena and by it's size it is a male ( but not quite sure ).
That hyena is big, not a male,at least like leopard. And hyenas in kruger do not seem to have so clear spots when old like in other places. Anyway i've seen that footage not one time. I have just epressed my personal opinion on this footage.
sorry you are wrong again. that is a small hyena.... hyenas spotts do not always fade out.. but this hyena's fur is fluffy, and to gray... thats what you should look for in. I can remember reading this discussion and you did say you'r not a hyena expert if i'm not wrong... so my brother are a hyena expert so I trust him, and he did say that this is about a 2 year old hyena. but watch the video clip there you can see the size difference, if this was a big female hyena it would probably keep it's kill...
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Your brother should change job or spend his free time better.
I know Canidae, Reddohole, Chui, Marc etc. when each of us has his own position clear and not back off, we change the subject...................
I don't know you and your brother, but seems to me you resume something for wasting your time.
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Kurtz
Oct 27 2012, 08:58 PM
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Oct 27 2012, 08:37 PM
Kurtz
Oct 27 2012, 08:41 AM
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Oct 27 2012, 08:02 AM
Kurtz
Sep 12 2012, 07:48 PM
@ Canidae
Yes.
The spots on the fur of the hyena can vary even due to specimens and subspecies.
Surely that female hyena is fully grown and not smaller than Tugwan male leopard(about 70 kilos).

@ Marc

Is that account from Mala Mala?
this is a young hyena. the fur is gray. and the fur is too long and fluffy. and if you watch the clip you can also see that the hyena is smaller than the leopard. and you can see from the hyenas head to middle of the hyenas neck it's beginning to turn to adult fur. the spotts will not always fade out but this is to little and to gray and the fur is too long to be called an adult hyena and by it's size it is a male ( but not quite sure ).
That hyena is big, not a male,at least like leopard. And hyenas in kruger do not seem to have so clear spots when old like in other places. Anyway i've seen that footage not one time. I have just epressed my personal opinion on this footage.
sorry you are wrong again. that is a small hyena.... hyenas spotts do not always fade out.. but this hyena's fur is fluffy, and to gray... thats what you should look for in. I can remember reading this discussion and you did say you'r not a hyena expert if i'm not wrong... so my brother are a hyena expert so I trust him, and he did say that this is about a 2 year old hyena. but watch the video clip there you can see the size difference, if this was a big female hyena it would probably keep it's kill...
Posted Image

Your brother should change job or spend his free time better.
I know Canidae, Reddohole, Chui, Marc etc. when each of us has his own position clear and not back off, we change the subject...................
I don't know you and your brother, but seems to me you resume something for wasting your time.
this is a young hyena...... but you have an other opinion than me. so let's just leve it that way.. but I'm 100% sure in my case.
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Oct 27 2012, 11:22 PM
Kurtz
Oct 27 2012, 08:58 PM
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Oct 27 2012, 08:37 PM
Kurtz
Oct 27 2012, 08:41 AM
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Oct 27 2012, 08:02 AM
Kurtz
Sep 12 2012, 07:48 PM
@ Canidae
Yes.
The spots on the fur of the hyena can vary even due to specimens and subspecies.
Surely that female hyena is fully grown and not smaller than Tugwan male leopard(about 70 kilos).

@ Marc

Is that account from Mala Mala?
this is a young hyena. the fur is gray. and the fur is too long and fluffy. and if you watch the clip you can also see that the hyena is smaller than the leopard. and you can see from the hyenas head to middle of the hyenas neck it's beginning to turn to adult fur. the spotts will not always fade out but this is to little and to gray and the fur is too long to be called an adult hyena and by it's size it is a male ( but not quite sure ).
That hyena is big, not a male,at least like leopard. And hyenas in kruger do not seem to have so clear spots when old like in other places. Anyway i've seen that footage not one time. I have just epressed my personal opinion on this footage.
sorry you are wrong again. that is a small hyena.... hyenas spotts do not always fade out.. but this hyena's fur is fluffy, and to gray... thats what you should look for in. I can remember reading this discussion and you did say you'r not a hyena expert if i'm not wrong... so my brother are a hyena expert so I trust him, and he did say that this is about a 2 year old hyena. but watch the video clip there you can see the size difference, if this was a big female hyena it would probably keep it's kill...
Posted Image

Your brother should change job or spend his free time better.
I know Canidae, Reddohole, Chui, Marc etc. when each of us has his own position clear and not back off, we change the subject...................
I don't know you and your brother, but seems to me you resume something for wasting your time.
this is a young hyena...... but you have an other opinion than me. so let's just leve it that way.. but I'm 100% sure in my case.
i agree with you, thats a young hyena no doubt about it! as you say the fur is to gray and long, the spots may not always fade out, but the fur gets more brownish or orange. and the head is to slim and looks very young!
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Tugwaan male leopard have unnerved many people



Canis Lupus buy some book on hyenas in kruger
Edited by Kurtz, Oct 28 2012, 12:34 AM.
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Oct 27 2012, 11:59 PM
Tugwaan male leopard have unnerved many people



Canis Lupus buy some book on hyenas in kruger
i think i know more about hyenas than you do. you say you don`t want to watch the video, there you can clearly see thats a young hyena! if you don`t see it than you`re clearly an amateur. and its small aswell!
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Kurtz
Oct 27 2012, 11:59 PM
Tugwaan male leopard have unnerved many people



Canis Lupus buy some book on hyenas in kruger
haha here you ca see taht this hyena who is to the right from 0.5 -0.13 is like the hyena against the leopard in the picture... thats a small one mate...
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Oct 28 2012, 12:59 AM
Kurtz
Oct 27 2012, 11:59 PM
Tugwaan male leopard have unnerved many people



Canis Lupus buy some book on hyenas in kruger
i think i know more about hyenas than you do. you say you don`t want to watch the video, there you can clearly see thats a young hyena! if you don`t see it than you`re clearly an amateur. and its small aswell!
I do not know your references nor do I know who you are, so I do not care what you say there are other people and are truly knowledgeable about hyenas, who are you?
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Oct 28 2012, 01:05 AM
Kurtz
Oct 27 2012, 11:59 PM
Tugwaan male leopard have unnerved many people



Canis Lupus buy some book on hyenas in kruger
haha here you ca see taht this hyena who is to the right from 0.5 -0.13 is like the hyena against the leopard in the picture... thats a small one mate...
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That hyena stolen a prey to a mature female leopard before the enconter with that male leopard
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