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Biggest Leopard Sub-species?
Topic Started: May 17 2012, 08:41 PM (41,458 Views)
Kurtz
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Accoding with Guy Blame the biggest leopards come from north iran.
Indeed From Kruger or Kzn or aberdares or Tanzania come very big leopards close north iran subspecies.
There are recent research from central africa.
Skull measuramens are very good data for estimate the size of leopards, for the problem of the content of stomach of leopards(T.Dickerson)
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Kurtz
May 22 2012, 06:10 AM
Accoding with Guy Blame the biggest leopards come from north iran.
Indeed From Kruger or Kzn or aberdares or Tanzania come very big leopards close north iran subspecies.
There are recent research from central africa.
Skull measuramens are very good data for estimate the size of leopards, for the problem of the content of stomach of leopards(T.Dickerson)
Greetings all
Good to see you Kurtz! :)
I was W.R.R back on old carnivora.
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Kurtz
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Hi Canidae, good to see you too :)
Edited by Kurtz, May 22 2012, 06:25 AM.
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Sad but interesting shots :

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Central Africa leopard, we can see the big skull .

http://www.indianheadranch.com/IndianheadExpeditions/Africa/CentralAfrica.aspx

http://www.africahunting.com/central-african-republic-hunting-reports/5234-fantastic-hunt-central-africa-friend-mine.html

http://www.africahunting.com/hunting-africa/5943-photos-car-central-african-wildlife-adventures.html


Kurtz : have you got these recent research from central africa?


To finish , camera trap of a gabon leopard , look this head !

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Edited by ManEater, May 23 2012, 02:03 AM.
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May 23 2012, 01:39 AM
Sad but interesting shots :

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Central Africa leopard, we can see the big skull .

http://www.indianheadranch.com/IndianheadExpeditions/Africa/CentralAfrica.aspx

http://www.africahunting.com/central-african-republic-hunting-reports/5234-fantastic-hunt-central-africa-friend-mine.html

http://www.africahunting.com/hunting-africa/5943-photos-car-central-african-wildlife-adventures.html


Kurtz : have you got these recent research from central africa?


To finish , camera trap of a gabon leopard , look this head !

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Hi M.E.
it's a study in congo "Panthera.org": Leopard prey choice in the Congo Basin rainforest suggests
exploitative competition with human bushmeat hunters

http://www.panthera.org/sites/default/files/Henschel_et_al_2011_Leopard_competition_with_bushmeat_hunters_JZO.PDF

I hope that starting from this study will be out of other material not yet published


I think big males we see in hunting records pics are 65 - 75 kilos like that male
when they are small (35 - 50 kilos) are so cause they are females or subadult or small subpecies(Zambia, Namibia etc.)
Only one or max two males i seen pheraps 85 kilos in all internet acconuts of hunting site
Just my opinion, but this explains, however, that most of the weight of the leopard is concentrated in the head neck and shoulders.
In fact the comparison between man and leopard is impractical watching this type of photo.
In any case, just think that a dead leopard of 85 kilograms could hardly be raised, not with that facility.
Edited by Kurtz, May 23 2012, 05:26 AM.
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They wear them, but they do not lift them from the ground.

And i don't chose these shots because there are huge specimens , but just because i find they had a big head in comparison to their body , they are not really big specimen btw .


ps : Yes , i saw this study too , it is great.
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Some new photos of the +- 90 kg Camp Pan male leopard from the Sabi Sands :D

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ps: KurtZ!! good to see you back!
Edited by 1977marc, May 23 2012, 08:48 PM.
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Kurtz
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hi marc, how it goes.. I am happy to find you again.
have you seen as growing Xinzele? He is awesome, the candidate for the largest leopard in the near future ;)

p.s. great pics of Campan!
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Hi Kurtz,

Xinzele was allmost dead  :o


Xinzele attacked by lion
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Is it me , or this guy was big ?

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May 24 2012, 12:59 AM
Hi Kurtz,

Xinzele was allmost dead  :o


Xinzele attacked by lion
Wowza, just look at its size compared to the Lioness too!

And I'd agree M.E, looks like a big one. ^
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So does anybody have information on the size of Amur Leopards before they were hunted to such a small population ? Do they have to much competition with Tigers to be HUGE ?
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May 25 2012, 03:34 AM
So does anybody have information on the size of Amur Leopards before they were hunted to such a small population ? Do they have to much competition with Tigers to be HUGE ?
In recent studies made in Russia, males are 32 - 48 kg. the average is 40 kg.

I don't know where it comes from but we have 37.2 - 89.8 kilograms for males in old books and resources. so the average was maybe 63.5 kg. If it is correct it was like Northern Persian, Indian and Central African/South African males...
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May 25 2012, 12:51 AM
Is it me , or this guy was big ?

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the only one probably @ 80 - 85 kg. in my opinion btwn all internet hunting accounts
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Kashane male leopard son of Hlaralini male leopard(Hlaralini was the leopard that almost killed hyena in account "Sweet revenge" of Guy Balme)
Probably the biggest head campared with his body in SS


An enormous 10 yrs old male in India Fantastic!!
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