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Big territorial male leopards; Only territorial male leopards starting 60 kilograms and over
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Ophiophagy	Jan 7 2013, 03:24 AM Post #301
Kleptoparasite Posts: 1,980 Group: Members Member #241 Joined: Mar 16, 2012	they seem to be the most deadly cat for their size but its hard to find big ones i heard kenya leopards are big Between 1996 and 2000, 11 adult leopards were radio-collared on Namibian farmlands. Males weighed 37.5 to 52.3 kg (83 to 115 lb) only, and females 24 to 33.5 kg (53 to 74 lb).[3] which african sub species is this Edited by Ophiophagy, Jan 7 2013, 03:29 AM.



Kurtz	Jan 7 2013, 03:59 AM Post #302
Kleptoparasite Posts: 1,994 Group: Members Member #333 Joined: May 22, 2012	poison Jan 7 2013, 03:24 AM they seem to be the most deadly cat for their size but its hard to find big ones i heard kenya leopards are big Between 1996 and 2000, 11 adult leopards were radio-collared on Namibian farmlands. Males weighed 37.5 to 52.3 kg (83 to 115 lb) only, and females 24 to 33.5 kg (53 to 74 lb).[3] which african sub species is this Poison it is not hard to find big ones Africa:Tanzania, zimbobwe, kruger, botswana, zululand some parts of kenya etc etc. are big beasts 60-80 kilograms-the same in srilinaka and the same in some parts of india where tigers are in poor density not to speak north iran and some equatorial parts of africa. As per weights you posted are in NAMIBIA! Namibia do not produce big leopards with only excption of Valencia where is the apex predator with the biggest male ever recorded. Anyway if you go on leopard panthera pardus profile you can find it Edited by Kurtz, Jan 7 2013, 04:00 AM.



1977marc	Jan 7 2013, 04:57 AM Post #303
Heterotrophic Organism Posts: 325 Group: Members Member #30 Joined: Jan 9, 2012	Indeed Sri Lanka leopards are the badasses under the leopards. Their heads en looks are different then all other subspecies. Something else I noticed that they have a diferent back end. More rounded. Does anyone else thinks the same? here again proberly after Camp Pan the biggest male of the Sabi Sands Mvula



chui	Jan 7 2013, 06:38 AM Post #304
Heterotrophic Organism Posts: 360 Group: Members Member #375 Joined: Jun 12, 2012	poison Jan 7 2013, 03:24 AM they seem to be the most deadly cat for their size but its hard to find big ones i heard kenya leopards are big Between 1996 and 2000, 11 adult leopards were radio-collared on Namibian farmlands. Males weighed 37.5 to 52.3 kg (83 to 115 lb) only, and females 24 to 33.5 kg (53 to 74 lb).[3] They can get plenty big, in much of their range big males can get up to 170-180lbs and in some regions like the Congo Basin rainforest and Iran big males can likely reach 200lbs+ with some consistency, given their habitat is properly protected. The data on Namibian leopards you posted comes from very young leopards. Only 2 of the 6 males in the sample were over 4 years old and even these at 5 years old (60 months) were far from full grown. A male leopard reaches his full weight at around age 7. IMO a sample should only include males over 4 years of age and include an adequate number of fully mature males (7years+) to provide a truly representative average weight. The original source: http://www.cheetah.org/ama/orig/leopard.pdf Kurtz, I definitely don't agree with you about Namibian leopards being small. Some of the most impressive male leopards I've seen from southern Africa were from Namibia. In fact, Namibia is currently regarded as a top spot to hunt big leopards and you can easily find photos of huge leopards hunted all over Namibia. The best available data on the weights/measurements of Namibian leopards is provided here http://www.okonjima.com/site/africat/newsletters/12_1_204.pdf. However, this sample also includes very young individuals, as young as 2.5 years old. Note it says "For analytical purposes the measurements of all the cats under the age of 2½ years, as well as those that have been in captivity for any length of time, have been excluded.". If the sample was limited to males only 4 years and above the average likely would have been close to 60kg, about equal to Kruger. Also, this sample includes individuals from all over the country while those from other regions are usually limited to a specific study site in a National Park or Reserve where conditions are usually better. Thus the average weight of males specifically from the more productive areas of Namibia should also be higher. Main point is, you should be careful when comparing weights from different samples. Different researchers/sources don't always agree on what the minimum age of an adult leopard is and this will obviously have an impact on the average weight since male leopards continue to grow until 7 years old. I prefer skull measurements because this usually isn't an issue nor is the stomach content or health condition of the animal. An impressive male leopard from Namibia.



Canidae	Jan 7 2013, 06:55 AM Post #305
Omnivore Posts: 1,350 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: Jan 7, 2012	Great post as ever Chui, thanks for shedding light on Namibian Leopards. Do you know if such large males can be found in other arid / semi-arid areas too? Also, what site are those camera trap pictures from?



chui	Jan 7 2013, 12:09 PM Post #306
Heterotrophic Organism Posts: 360 Group: Members Member #375 Joined: Jun 12, 2012	Hi Canidae, from what I understand leopards from true desert areas generally aren’t large but those from the semi-arid regions on the edges of deserts it seems can be very impressive. Most of Namibia is actually characterized by dry bushveld and the true deserts are mostly restricted to the borders (Kalahari in the east and the Namib Desert along the coast). The density and distribution of leopards in Namibia reflects the environment. With the highest density being in the central plateau and gradually decreasing towards the desert areas. http://www.predatorconservation.com/library/atlas%20reports/atlas%20report%20july%202004.pdf The largest leopards in Namibia are probably where their density is highest. Indeed, the 96kg leopard was captured in the high density (pink) area and most of the huge males shot by hunters whose photographs can be found on the web also seem to come from this part of the country. The leopard pictured below being a prime example with a skull allegedly measuring 18.25 inch. I remember reading elsewhere that he weighed 80kg, possibly an estimate but perfectly believable. http://www.africahunting.com/content/2-hunting-leopard-dogs-566/ Also, the second biggest leopard skull recorded in the 1975 edition Rowland Wards came from a massive pale coloured leopard shot in southern Chad near the southern edge of the Sahara desert. It’s skull measured a very impressive 18.81 inches (293.6mm by 184.2mm).



1977marc	Jan 7 2013, 07:09 PM Post #307
Heterotrophic Organism Posts: 325 Group: Members Member #30 Joined: Jan 9, 2012	Namibie has some really huge leopard. The most famous ofcourse Mike Tyson from Okonjima: A few years back I was really in to this leopard ( +-80kg) huge head, nice pale coat...hus eyes were stunning. Mike Tyson - the magnificent Leopard He is the magnificent leopard appearing against a backdrop of the setting sun on glowing red rocks. TYSON - a famous face, an impressive physique and an unforgettable experience. Tyson spent almost three-quarters of his life here on OKONJIMA. Arriving at Africat in 1991, he was placed in a holding area (5ha) from which he escaped. He wasn't seen again for the next 2 years when all of a sudden he came out of hiding - whether he had remained on Okonjima during this time or returned from elsewhere is unknown. In January 2001 he was radio-collared and released into the 4000ha (10 000acre) game park. Although frequently monitored, he chose to stay out of the limelight once his son TJ took over - and only showed himself on few occasions. In September 2004, a mortality signal from his collar led us to him for the very last time. At 20yrs of age the life of a legend had come to an end, but fond memories of Tyson will remain, and for us the legend will live forever. CC Africa have him on their Londolozi brochure, called "Leopards of Londolozi". "Nomad Overland Safaris" have him as their flagship leopard. Paul Goldstein www.exodus.co.uk writes of Tyson: I am desolate about this, as I am sure you all are at Okonjima. I know one shouldn't get too emotional about an animal that has lived for a fine innings but he was not only a huge part of your furniture but also a predator of such character and resilience that he really does leave a large hole. 11 years ago (yes that long ago) I first encountered this magnificent leopard and the photo I took that late afternoon still hangs on my wall at home - it will remain there. he could be described as many things: a character, an enigma, a mighty beast, a meal ticket, a beautiful predator but whatever the pragmatic sobriquet given, he was and will remain a legend.



1977marc	Jan 7 2013, 10:05 PM Post #308
Heterotrophic Organism Posts: 325 Group: Members Member #30 Joined: Jan 9, 2012	Posted this before, but this leopard sadly killed.. one of the biggest skulls from Namibia The Namibian (Windhoek) NEWS 4 November 2008 Posted to the web 4 November 2008 By Absalom Shigwedha THE killing of what was probably the biggest leopard in Namibia in September has also been condemned in South Africa. Reports say e-mails have been circulating in South Africa, condemning the killing of the leopard. Giel de Kock, a former game warden in Namibia, was quoted by the South African Sunday newspaper Rapport as saying it was tragic that the leopard was shot, especially because of its extraordinary size. The big cat, which was about 10 years old and 2,2 metres long, was ranked the eight largest trophy of its species by Safari Club International, an international body of trophy hunters. -------



Kurtz	Jan 8 2013, 01:33 AM Post #309
Kleptoparasite Posts: 1,994 Group: Members Member #333 Joined: May 22, 2012	chui Jan 7 2013, 06:38 AM poison Jan 7 2013, 03:24 AM they seem to be the most deadly cat for their size but its hard to find big ones i heard kenya leopards are big Between 1996 and 2000, 11 adult leopards were radio-collared on Namibian farmlands. Males weighed 37.5 to 52.3 kg (83 to 115 lb) only, and females 24 to 33.5 kg (53 to 74 lb).[3] They can get plenty big, in much of their range big males can get up to 170-180lbs and in some regions like the Congo Basin rainforest and Iran big males can likely reach 200lbs+ with some consistency, given their habitat is properly protected. The data on Namibian leopards you posted comes from very young leopards. Only 2 of the 6 males in the sample were over 4 years old and even these at 5 years old (60 months) were far from full grown. A male leopard reaches his full weight at around age 7. IMO a sample should only include males over 4 years of age and include an adequate number of fully mature males (7years+) to provide a truly representative average weight. The original source: http://www.cheetah.org/ama/orig/leopard.pdf Kurtz, I definitely don't agree with you about Namibian leopards being small. Some of the most impressive male leopards I've seen from southern Africa were from Namibia. In fact, Namibia is currently regarded as a top spot to hunt big leopards and you can easily find photos of huge leopards hunted all over Namibia. The best available data on the weights/measurements of Namibian leopards is provided here http://www.okonjima.com/site/africat/newsletters/12_1_204.pdf. However, this sample also includes very young individuals, as young as 2.5 years old. Note it says "For analytical purposes the measurements of all the cats under the age of 2½ years, as well as those that have been in captivity for any length of time, have been excluded.". If the sample was limited to males only 4 years and above the average likely would have been close to 60kg, about equal to Kruger. Also, this sample includes individuals from all over the country while those from other regions are usually limited to a specific study site in a National Park or Reserve where conditions are usually better. Thus the average weight of males specifically from the more productive areas of Namibia should also be higher. Main point is, you should be careful when comparing weights from different samples. Different researchers/sources don't always agree on what the minimum age of an adult leopard is and this will obviously have an impact on the average weight since male leopards continue to grow until 7 years old. I prefer skull measurements because this usually isn't an issue nor is the stomach content or health condition of the animal. An impressive male leopard from Namibia. indeed chui i forgot taht research in okonjima Impressive that male on the table with a lady meausirng him the chest - page 2 http://www.okonjima.com/site/africat/newsletters/12_1_204.pdf



StoJa	Jan 8 2013, 02:16 PM Post #310
Autotrophic Organism Posts: 101 Group: Members Member #728 Joined: Oct 14, 2012	I fucking loathe seeing pictures of self-important jackasses posing with an animals they killed for the sole purpose of feeding their small dicked egos.



Kurtz	Jan 12 2013, 01:01 AM Post #311
Kleptoparasite Posts: 1,994 Group: Members Member #333 Joined: May 22, 2012	Mvula and Ntima



Kurtz	Jan 12 2013, 01:05 AM Post #312
Kleptoparasite Posts: 1,994 Group: Members Member #333 Joined: May 22, 2012	Mvula and Karula



Kurtz	Jan 12 2013, 01:06 AM Post #313
Kleptoparasite Posts: 1,994 Group: Members Member #333 Joined: May 22, 2012	Again Mvula



Kurtz	Jan 17 2013, 12:17 AM Post #314
Kleptoparasite Posts: 1,994 Group: Members Member #333 Joined: May 22, 2012	http://www.travelwrite.co.za/scent-of-a-leopard/ Edited by Kurtz, Jan 17 2013, 12:18 AM.



Kurtz	Jan 17 2013, 12:25 AM Post #315
Kleptoparasite Posts: 1,994 Group: Members Member #333 Joined: May 22, 2012	from kenya http://www.africaimagelibrary.com/media/618efef6-8d31-11e1-9c9f-3f32e0be1b46-leopard-panthera-pardus-meru-national-park-kenya#loc=/-/galleries/east-africa/kenya/-/medias/618efef6-8d31-11e1-9c9f-3f32e0be1b46-leopard-panthera-pardus-meru-national-park-kenya%253F&refr=main_content&t=1358348082444 Edited by Kurtz, Jan 17 2013, 12:26 AM.



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