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| Big territorial male leopards; Only territorial male leopards starting 60 kilograms and over | |
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| 1977marc | Jun 26 2012, 05:47 PM Post #46 |
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killing and dragging a 150 kg Gnu is impressive. Leopards can kill huge animals. But in areas where competition is high the will avoid the biggers kills because the changes of loosing the kill is to high. |
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| Kurtz | Jun 26 2012, 07:15 PM Post #47 |
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Considering the age of campan, it's an impressive kill |
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| ImperialDino | Jun 29 2012, 01:39 AM Post #48 |
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A lone striped Hyena would take the Leopards kills |
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| ManEater | Jun 29 2012, 01:42 AM Post #49 |
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Can taïpan delete the post above , it becomes boring . |
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| Canidae | Jun 29 2012, 01:53 AM Post #50 |
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From his description : "He is one of the few leopards that is powerful enough to stand up to hyena and will defend his carcass from hyena theft." The benefits of being a 90 Kg male! Edit : Also found this : "The Camp Pan male then decided he was done with the remaining leg he had and started to descend the tree. He could see the hyena waiting at the bottom of the tree. Just before he made his final jump down, he opened his mouth and released the leg. The hyena quickly grabbed it and scurried off. It seemed that he did the release just to have the hyena not bother him as he jumped off the tree and that is exactly what happened." http://blog.londolozi.com/2011/09/vomba-female-stalks-maxabene-young-male/ Seems brains and brawn are needed to be the Top Cat, that was a sly trick. Edited by Canidae, Jun 29 2012, 02:16 AM.
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| Kurtz | Jun 29 2012, 03:17 AM Post #51 |
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Probably campan at his prime was close(not @) 90 kilos. Other few leopards in Londolozi, Short tail male(Bicycle Crossing Male at mala mala), Tyson male, Dudley male, Sand river male that is impossible that are all 80-90 kilos. Probably these males are in 60-78 kilos Max out close 90 kilos only one in all sabisands, (may be campan). Few cause the others in londolozi are less than 5 years old. Edited by Kurtz, Jun 29 2012, 03:20 AM.
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| k9boy | Jun 29 2012, 03:22 AM Post #52 |
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This is the Emsagwen male next to a lioness. The Emsagwen male is 80kg and the lioness is around 125kg
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| Kurtz | Jun 29 2012, 03:24 AM Post #53 |
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yes k9 but this male unfortunately died  About the future i think Xinzele male leopard and Maxabene amle leopard will be beastly!! Edited by Kurtz, Jun 29 2012, 03:25 AM.
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| chui | Jun 29 2012, 04:12 AM Post #54 |
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I'm not so impressed by this leopard, I think others like Campan and Tyson are much more impressive. His head is tiny in comparison to the lioness's, yet there are skulls of male leopards from central Africa and Iran which approach the size of the average adult lioness skull. These leopards would probably put a leopard like Emswagen to shame. In my opinion the most impressive of the well observed and photographed males of the Sabi Sands are/were the Hlarulini male, Campan male, Ottawa male, and Tyson. These males really epitomized for me what a male leopard is suppose to be with their heavy builds, thick necks, and massive heads. I would think based on their descriptions and photographs that each of them was a good 75-80kg and representative of pinnacle male leopards of the African savanna. The Hlarulini male. 
Edited by chui, Jun 29 2012, 04:20 AM.
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| k9boy | Jun 29 2012, 05:29 AM Post #55 |
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Well chui I'm sure any leopards head would look small when compared to a lioness, they are quite abit smaller. |
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| ImperialDino | Jun 29 2012, 05:38 AM Post #56 |
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Why? You need to inform yourself NOVICE http://www.bookrags.com/studyguide-cry-of-the-kalahari/chapanal009.html Through careful observation, Mark and Delia begin to understand the relationships between the brown hyena and other predators. A brown hyena waits until the lions are done feeding before going near a kill. Star and another hyena named Shadow, both chase away a leopard dubbed the Pink Panther. After the leopard kills his prey, the Pink Panther timidly retreats and allows the brown hyenas to take his prey. The browns are aggressive and their strong jaws could break the leopard's leg. A pack of wild dogs intimidates Star and devours a kill she had commandeered. In the Valley of Deception, after the lions, the browns are the dominant carnivore followed by leopards, cheetahs and jackals. other info Brown hyenas are primarily scavengers, the bulk of their diet consisting of carcasses killed by larger predators, though they may supplement their diet with rodents, insects, eggs and fruit. However, brown hyenas are aggressive scavengers, frequently appropriating the kills of black-backed jackals, cheetahs, and leopards, including adult male leopards. Single brown hyenas will charge leopards at kills with jaws held wide open and have treed adult male leopards; sometimes, brown hyenas have been observed treeing leopards even when no kill was in contention. In the Kalahari desert, brown hyenas are often the dominant mammalian carnivores present because of their dominance over the other predators listed above, and because of the scarcity of lions, spotted hyenas, and packs of African wild dogs. In areas where they may overlap, Brown hyenas may rarely be killed by spotted hyenas and lions. Basically BROWN HYENAS are the apex predator when Lions, Striped Hyenas and African Wild Dogs are not around.  |
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| k9boy | Jun 29 2012, 05:58 AM Post #57 |
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ImperialDino Why do you feel the need to take your insecurity's out on leopards? Some leopards will flee from brown hyenas, some will stand there ground and chase it off. Does it really matter? A leopard could kill a brown hyena in a heartbeat anyway. |
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| Canidae | Jun 29 2012, 06:16 AM Post #58 |
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Certainly not. The people - who were zoologists - who wrote 'Cry of the Kalahari' and observed such animals on daily basis for years on end said a Brown Hyaena could likely withstand a Leopard's attacks and give it a good fight with their bone-crushing jaws. Similarly in another paper on Leopard diet it was stated adult Brown Hyaenas had sufficient weaponary to minimise predation, with the account cited of predation being only a 6-month old cub. Edit : BACK ON TOPIC here's the Marthly Male after a Zebra foal kill.  The Marthly Male turns from drinking after feasting on a zebra foal carcass. A zebra – even a young one – is a big catch for a leopard.  The Marthly Male was far away from his usual realm – deep in the heart of Camp Pan’s territory. Aside from chasing the Maxabene 3:2 Young Male into a tree one night, his presence seemed to go unnoticed while he spent three days on the kill. http://blog.londolozi.com/2012/06/the-week-in-pictures-45/ Edited by Canidae, Jun 29 2012, 06:19 AM.
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| ManEater | Jun 29 2012, 06:24 AM Post #59 |
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I really doubt the Emsagwen male is 80kg . ps : i doubt the male we are talking about will flee against a hyena , and imperialdino is just a stupid troll who always give a childish comment on all leopard's thread . And i really doubt the kalahari leopard is the best representation of the gender leopard . Desertic leopard are not big . Edited by ManEater, Jun 29 2012, 06:26 AM.
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| k9boy | Jun 29 2012, 06:24 AM Post #60 |
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A brown hyena could not withstand an angry leopards attack. And yes I doubt a leopard would go for an adult brown hyena, there is much easier prey out there. But in a life and death situation the brown hyena would be swiftly overpowered and dealt with. |
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