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| Big territorial male leopards; Only territorial male leopards starting 60 kilograms and over | |
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| Kurtz | Mar 30 2014, 09:02 AM Post #676 |
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Great find ME. btwn The King still in amazing shape 
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| Superpredator | Mar 30 2014, 10:26 AM Post #677 |
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Great pic. |
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| Kurtz | Mar 30 2014, 11:04 PM Post #678 |
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prepare your dolby surround!! |
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| chui | Mar 30 2014, 11:09 PM Post #679 |
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One very grand leopard from Algeria. These Barbary leopards were probably among the very biggest. Too bad they're practically extinct now due to lack of attention. Some other pictures of Barbary leopards I posted previously here: http://carnivoraforum.com/topic/9552171/5/#post8378611 |
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| Kurtz | Mar 30 2014, 11:11 PM Post #680 |
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ancient romans seen these beasts in colosseum, it would interesting to know what specimen was Victor the strongest male leopard in colosseum From renowed Alberto Angela (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberto_Angela) The history of Victor the biggest and stronger leopard ever in colosseum: Invito Al Colosseo Posted on 23 settembre 2008  I suoi occhi chiarissimi sembrano quasi incastonati nel viso abbronzato. Non si distolgono neanche per un attimo dal corpo muscoloso dell’avversario. Anche adesso che entrambi girano in cerchio, studiandosi… Su di loro sono puntati gli sguardi di migliaia di persone che dalla mattina osservano, incitano e urlano dagli spalti. Al Colosseo sono infatti cominciati i giochi. Il primo spettacolo che apre la giornata sono le venationes, cioè la cacce. Non combattimenti tra gladiatori, quindi, ma tra uomini e animali. (…) Come quello che è appena iniziato. (…) Tra i riccioli biondi del cacciatore si scorge il luccichio del sudore. Il suo nome è Spittara, ma la folla ha smesso di inneggiarlo, tanta è la tensione. Di fronte, possente e sicuro di sé, ha uno dei grandi dominatori dell’arena: Victor. Non è un essere umano, ma potrebbe esserlo per l’intelligenza che dimostra nei suoi combattimenti. (…) Victor, cioè il “vincitore”, è un leopardo di proporzioni anormalmente grandi, diventato ben presto il beniamino della folla in tanti combattimenti: una volta ha spinto il suo avversario contro il corpo di un altro cacciatore stramazzato a terra pochi secondi prima e lo ha fatto inciampare, balzando poi all’improvviso e azzannandolo alla gola. (…) Spittara è un bravo cacciatore delle arene, è molto amato dalle donne per il suo aspetto aggraziato, ma non è famoso quanto Victor. (…) Stringe in mano una spessa lancia affilata. Non ha altro: né una corazza, né un elmo, né una spada. L’unica protezione sono dei gambali di stoffa rinforzati. Un ruggito attraversa l’arena: è quello di un leone che è appena uscito da una porta per combattere contro un altro cacciatore. E’ quello che Spittara aspettava e sperava. Victor è stato addestrato benissimo a non distrarsi alle urla della folla o dei suoi avversari. Ma l’improvviso richiamo di un leone fa scattare il suo istinto primordiale. In natura, infatti, i leoni adulti uccidono i leopardi. E’ solo un attimo, una distrazione. Il leopardo volge fulmineo la testa nella direzione del leone. Ha appena il tempo di mettere a fuoco la sagoma dell’altro felino che subito si sente trafitto, proprio sotto la gola, dove inizia il costato. In una frazione di secondo percepisce distintamente l’ampia lama affondare nella gabbia toracica e un dolore lancinante. Non ha neanche sentito l’urlo di battaglia che Spittara ha emesso svuotando i polmoni. L’uomo è partito all’attacco abbassandosi e facendo un lungo passo per dare più potenza al colpo, esattamente come fanno gli schermidori per affondare una stoccata. La reazione della belva è rabbiosa. Il leopardo piega l’enorme collo e prova a mordere la lancia, ma non ci riesce. Poi dà una potentissima zampata all’asta della lancia, quasi staccandola dal corpo. Ora riesce a morderla e la spezza con i denti. Ma è troppo tardi, si sente sempre più debole: vede la sagoma di Spittara in piedi, quasi in attesa del “verdetto”. Se l’animale si riprende, per il cacciatore, che è senza lancia, si mette male. Forse gliene daranno un’altra, forse no. Ma non ce ne sarà bisogno. Negli occhi giallini, inespressivi del leopardo, la sagoma di Spittara si annebbia sempre di più. Il sangue esce a fiotti dalla ferita e forma un’ampia pozza sull’arena, tra le sue zampe. Il colpo è stato perfetto. Un ultimo ruggito, poi un rantolo e un gorgoglio dovuto al sangue che sta invadendo gola e polmoni. La belva si accascia e poi stramazza, le fauci semiaperte. La folla esplode. Un boato s’innalza dalle gradinate e urla il nome del cacciatore: “Spittara, Spittara”. Il Colosseo ha un nuovo eroe. da Una giornata dell’antica Roma, di Alberto Angela  You must translate cause i don't find it in english His eyes seem almost embedded in the tanned face. Do not distract either for a moment by the muscular body of the opponent. Even now that both are spinning in circles, studied ... On them are the eyes of thousands of people from morning look, incite and shouting from the stands. The Coliseum is started. The first show which opens the day are venationes, which is hunt. Fights between gladiators, not then, but between men and animals. (…) Like the one that has just begun. (…) Among Hunter's blond curls you can see the gleam of sweat. His name is Spittara, but the crowd stopped screaming, so great is the tension. From the front, powerful and self-assured, has one of the great masters of the arena: Victor. It is not a human being, but it could be for intelligence which shows in his fights. (…) Victor, the "winner", is an abnormally large proportions Leopard, soon became the darling of the crowd in so many fights: once pushed his opponent against the body of another Hunter as a sarcastic commentary on the ground just seconds before and he did stumble, then suddenly jumping and biting in throat. (…) Spittara is a skilled Hunter arenas, is well loved by the women for his graceful appearance, but is not famous as Victor. (…) Holding in his hand a thick sharp spear. Has no other: neither armor nor a helmet nor a sword. The only protection cloth leggings are strengthened. A roar through the arena: is that of a lion that has just been released from a port to fight another Hunter. That's what Spittara expected and hoped. Victor was trained very well to not get distracted with the screams of the crowd or its opponents. But the sudden recall of a lion triggers its primordial instinct. In nature, in fact, the adult Lions kill the leopards. It's just a moment, a distraction. The Leopard is coming lightning heads in the direction of the lion. Has just enough time to focus on the shape of the other feline that immediately feels transfixed, just below the Gorge, where the cost. In a split-second distinctly feels the wide blade sink into the rib cage and a stabbing pain. Did not even hear the scream of battle that Spittara issued by clearing the lungs. The man started to attack falling and doing a long pass to give more power to the shot, exactly how do living to sink a JAB. The reaction of the beast is angry. The Leopard's enormous neck crease and tries to bite the spear, but fails. Then gives a powerful paw Lance auction, almost pulling it off from the body. Now manages to bite her and breaks up with his teeth. But it is too late, he feels increasingly weak: sees the silhouette of Spittara standing, almost waiting for the "verdict". If the animal you shoot, for the Hunter, who is without Lance, you put wrong. Maybe give him another, maybe not. But there will be no need. Chantarelles, inexpressive eyes of the Leopard, the silhouette of Spittara fogs. The blood comes out from the wound and ears form a large puddle on the arena, between its legs. The shot was perfect. A final roar, then a rattle and a gurgle due to blood that is invading my throat and lungs. La belva collapses and then falls dead, the mouth Interior. The crowd explodes. A roar rises from the bleachers and screaming the name of Hunter: "Spittara, Spittara". The Coliseum has a new hero. from a day of ancient Rome, Alberto Angela Edited by Kurtz, Mar 30 2014, 11:15 PM.
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| Wolverine | Mar 30 2014, 11:38 PM Post #681 |
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Theyre very impressive. |
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| chui | Mar 30 2014, 11:39 PM Post #682 |
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Great info Kurtz, thanks. From what I understand the Romans got their leopards from North Africa and Turkey mostly. So the leopards used in the Colosseum would have been either of the Barbary or Anatolian/Persian variety. Barbary leopards were always regarded as being very large, but there's very few details available on their size. According to the "Mammals of Algeria" the leopard described in this early paper weighed over 80kg http://bibdigital.rjb.csic.es/Imagenes/P0063_04/P0063_04_047.pdf. However, I would be much more interested in skull measurements, there must be some Barbary leopard skulls in French collections. In any case, looking at early photographs of leopards from Morocco and Algeria, some specimen definitely look huge. The one I just posted above looks extraordinarily massive. I wouldn't at all be surprised if it weighs well over 90kg. Edited by chui, Mar 30 2014, 11:41 PM.
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| Kurtz | Mar 30 2014, 11:47 PM Post #683 |
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impressive, thank you chui |
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| figantee | Mar 31 2014, 06:53 AM Post #684 |
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Edited by figantee, Apr 16 2014, 01:59 AM.
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| Kurtz | Mar 31 2014, 07:47 AM Post #685 |
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It's a well size female figantee probably in at 95-100 pounds. If you take care to open a specific topic we can put most beautiful female leopards. I think we all take care to put in that topic lot of females  My purpose is do not make this forum random leopards Edited by Kurtz, Mar 31 2014, 07:52 AM.
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| figantee | Apr 1 2014, 08:14 AM Post #686 |
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forgiveness I thought it was a male I was not sure that a female leopard was also d with all strong body equals a male after a certain age |
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| figantee | Apr 1 2014, 11:30 AM Post #687 |
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| figantee | Apr 1 2014, 11:31 AM Post #688 |
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ok
Edited by figantee, Jun 7 2014, 04:06 AM.
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| figantee | Apr 1 2014, 11:32 AM Post #689 |
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| figantee | Apr 1 2014, 11:33 AM Post #690 |
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good pictures
Edited by figantee, Jun 21 2017, 09:13 AM.
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