| Welcome to Carnivora. We hope you enjoy your visit. You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free. Join our community! If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features: |
| Big territorial male leopards; Only territorial male leopards starting 60 kilograms and over | |
|---|---|
| Tweet Topic Started: May 29 2012, 11:54 PM (256,451 Views) | |
| Kurtz | Apr 3 2015, 07:44 PM Post #1096 |
|
Kleptoparasite
  ![]](http://b2.ifrm.com/28122/87/0/p701956/pipright.png)
|
indeed chui, namibian leopards are impressive and this male is the epitome of what a male leopard should be in any sector, overall size, head, neck, shoulders, chest and ratio btwn all!  is he like the 77 kilos male weigghed by peter turnbull kemp? what do think about his weight. |
 |
 
|
| 7574 | Apr 3 2015, 07:54 PM Post #1097 |
|
Omnivore
|
At bare hand me think even 10 human die |
|
|
|
| chui | Apr 3 2015, 09:24 PM Post #1098 |
|
Heterotrophic Organism
|
Hey Kurtz, it looks like a big well built leopard, maybe 80kg or so. Pictures can be deceptive though so hard to be sure. Update: Here are more pictures of what is probably the same leopard. The source of the pictures is the same safari company and as you can see the hunter is the same. Hard to be 100% sure since the day time pictures show the right side of the body so can't really compare body pattern to confirm but the forehead markings suggest it's the same leopard. And with this image we also have pretty detailed measurement info. The weight is stated as 76.5kg with a 90cm chest girth, so a pretty big leopard but nothing extraordinary. Interestingly, this leopard doesn't look nearly as impressive in these pictures as it does in the ones I posted before but that just shows how much of an impact lighting, angle, positioning etc can make. Also, perhaps the body had deteriorated a little by the time the daylight pictures were taken but hard to say.   Source: Leopard hunted with Ozondjahe Hunting Safaris in Namibia Hunting Leopard at Ozondjahe Hunting Safaris in Namibia As per Turnbull Kemp's 77kg leopard, that was just the biggest he was able to weigh, it seems many of the huge leopards he came across were never weighed. I would be more interested in the monster 8 foot 5 inch Cameroon leopard that was the biggest he ever saw, period. A leopard genuinely measuring 8 feet 5 inches long would probably be around 100kg. But in my opinion these forest leopards are in a different league compared to the savannah leopards we're used to seeing. As Peter Turnbull-Kemp writes, the forest leopard is almost like a different breed of leopard that has evolved to take down bigger prey as the King of the African forest. Excerpt from his book:  The only picture of a live male leopard from Gabon I have seen that was not taken by a camera trap. Taken from a distance but easy to see it's yet another impressive beast from the forest. 
Edited by chui, Apr 5 2015, 11:42 PM.
|
|
|
|
| ManEater | Apr 3 2015, 09:47 PM Post #1099 |
Omnivore
|
Hi Chui, this picture of this male gabon leopard is very impressiveone time again, what a head ! Where did you find this? A shame it's so hard to have pictures/datas for this population of leopard. It's amazing to see the difference in shape in comparison with the savanna leopard that people is accustomed to see. |
|
|
|
| Kurtz | Apr 3 2015, 09:54 PM Post #1100 |
|
Kleptoparasite
|
thank you very much chui... and yes these Gabon leopards are in another league! |
|
|
|
| chui | Apr 5 2015, 11:52 PM Post #1101 |
|
Heterotrophic Organism
|
Kurtz, I updated my post above^ with some more info on that Namibian leopard if you are interested. Hey ManEater, yes it is too bad we don't have more pictures and info on the Congo Basin leopards. But in recent years some camera trap pictures have emerged which show how impressive looking these leopards can be and more should follow. There is also a fairly decent amount of data on skulls for these leopards although I'd certainly like to see more. BTW awesome picture you posted on page 72 of the impressive male from Gabon captured by one of Philipp Henschel's camera traps. Here is a picture of another big male camera trapped by Dr. Henschel in Gabon. This looks like a very old leopard with a very pronounced dewlap and loose skin who has probably lost condition. Although, not bulging with huge muscles this male still gives the impression of being incredibly imposing, his head looks like it belongs on a male lion! One after another these Gabon males fail to disappoint.  And just for comparison, an adult female also camera trapped in the same region of Gabon. This not a cub or subadult, it was identified as an adult female by Dr. Henschel! The sexual dimorphism in these leopards is very extreme.  Unfortunately, most of central Africa (and West Africa) is composed of very unstable countries which have been devastated by horrific civil wars over the past few decades. With broken infrastructure and continuing chaos photographic safaris like those in relatively stable countries in East and Southern Africa are obviously not high on the list of priorities. Furthermore, a demand for bush meat and the ready supply of guns from these wars makes for a very bad combination and the wildlife populations in these great forests have suffered tremendously. In the rainforests of Nigeria and Cameroon for example, leopards are almost extinct. Luckily, there are some exceptions like Gabon which are fairly stable and have managed to preserve their wildlife. That is why it's primarily from Gabon that we have pictures of these impressive forest leopards. Edited by chui, Apr 6 2015, 12:05 AM.
|
|
|
|
| Kurtz | Apr 6 2015, 02:38 AM Post #1102 |
|
Kleptoparasite
|
thank you chui for the update. It's the twin of madiba ....fantastic male and accurate data.. very great find!!
|
|
|
|
| ManEater | Apr 6 2015, 03:01 AM Post #1103 |
|
Omnivore
|
Yes thanks Chui, even if he looks quite emaciated, your male still remain impressive with his big head who show a big strong skull. I hope that the wildlife in the two Congos are as good that in Gabon. Edited by ManEater, Apr 6 2015, 03:28 AM.
|
|
|
|
| 1977marc | Apr 6 2015, 04:47 AM Post #1104 |
|
Heterotrophic Organism
|
Great work guy's amazing pictures. that old boy looks like a monster. Here I think a Gabon mirror leopard video we did not post before. One mirror is 122 cm in width. Not a brute but I think a 4 -5 yeard old male. not to shabby Gaon mirror leopard repost of the biggest leopard I ever seen huge huge male this one is at least 100kg Edited by 1977marc, Apr 6 2015, 04:51 AM.
|
|
|
|
| ManEater | Apr 6 2015, 07:38 AM Post #1105 |
|
Omnivore
|
Hello Marc, i have posted this video on the old topic on gabon leopard with mirror, i'm afraid nobody really see it, thanks to post it again, i think he is not totally prime adult (lack of dewlap) but already impressively built! And i agree the second video you posted remain the one of the most if not the most impressive leopard i have seen too. Edited by ManEater, Apr 6 2015, 07:39 AM.
|
|
|
|
| 1977marc | Apr 7 2015, 09:33 PM Post #1106 |
|
Heterotrophic Organism
|
I had a talk with Steyn Villiers he is the guy who witnesses the Tjellelenga male fighting of 4 lionesses. He did a master study on leopards and he told me this is the biggest leopard he has ever seen  It is form Tuli Block, Mashatu around 2004-2007 And he has a lot of comaparison, he knows Tingana of the Sands and says he is way not that big as this male Edited by 1977marc, Apr 7 2015, 09:38 PM.
|
|
|
|
| Ntwadumela | Apr 11 2015, 01:35 AM Post #1107 |
Herbivore
|
Big male persian eating a dead cow
          Sources: https://www.facebook.com/persianleopardprojectpage/posts/452539461565184 http://www.iew.ir/1394/01/21/34995 |
|
|
|
| 1977marc | Apr 23 2015, 12:50 AM Post #1108 |
|
Heterotrophic Organism
|
a 89kg leopard from the Lowe Sabie Sands https://books.google.de/books?id=gbVGAQAAQBAJ&pg=PT84&lpg=PT84&dq=leopard+weighted&source=bl&ots=iTm3WYVtg4&sig=KUlZ6WA6iGkybs45ocAN88tbuXQ&hl=nl&sa=X&ei=sro3VZ2QK8nNygPYooDwCQ&ved=0CEgQ6AEwBjgK#v=onepage&q=leopard%20weighted&f=false |
|
|
|
| Ntwadumela | Apr 23 2015, 02:42 AM Post #1109 |
|
Herbivore
|
Nice find. Judging by the photos, he clearly had food on his stomach. |
|
|
|
| ManEater | Apr 23 2015, 05:40 AM Post #1110 |
|
Omnivore
|
Very nice find Marc ! |
|
|
|
| 1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous) | |
 |
|
| Go to Next Page | |
| « Previous Topic · Video & Image Gallery · Next Topic » |
6:04 PM Jul 13
