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| 1977marc | May 23 2015, 05:27 PM Post #1141 |
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indian leopards for me are so beautifull. There coat is jaguar like |
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| ManEater | May 23 2015, 08:37 PM Post #1142 |
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 Sri lanka/Namibia: head structure difference. Edited by ManEater, May 23 2015, 10:07 PM.
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| Alexander Hamilton | May 24 2015, 04:31 AM Post #1143 |
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The late Emsagwen male with the Kikilezi female  https://www.facebook.com/Nottens.Bush.Camp/photos/pb.245824058413.-2207520000.1432405963./10150438148648414/?type=3&theater  https://www.facebook.com/Nottens.Bush.Camp/photos/pb.245824058413.-2207520000.1432405963./10150438148253414/?type=3&theater  http://blog.malamala.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/MalaMala-Ranger-Leopard.jpg  https://www.facebook.com/Nottens.Bush.Camp/photos/pb.245824058413.-2207520000.1432405963./10150438147763414/?type=3&theater  https://www.facebook.com/malamalagamereserve/photos/pb.131724370212529.-2207520000.1432407179./198890423495923/?type=3&theater  https://www.facebook.com/malamalagamereserve/photos/pb.131724370212529.-2207520000.1432407300./176294742422158/?type=3&theater The Camp Pan male  https://www.facebook.com/malamalagamereserve/photos/pb.131724370212529.-2207520000.1432406570./574171245967837/?type=3&theater  https://www.facebook.com/malamalagamereserve/photos/pb.131724370212529.-2207520000.1432406917./367732099945087/?type=3&theater Anderson male with his mother,2 years old  https://www.facebook.com/malamalagamereserve/photos/pb.131724370212529.-2207520000.1432407397./148142498570716/?type=3&theater |
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| chui | May 24 2015, 04:32 AM Post #1144 |
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Hey ManEater, cool comparison. I've been looking at photographs of the different male leopards from Yala recently and you can definitely note some differences in the structure of the head compared to African savanna and Indian leopards. In Sri Lankan males, the muzzle appears more prominent giving them a less catlike appearance and more similar to lions and jaguars. Also, you'll notice the ears appear relatively smaller and wider apart which suggests a more massive head overall. You notice similar characteristics in African forest leopards as well. I think because both these types of leopards (Congo Basin forest and Sri Lankan) have evolved as absolute supreme predators in their environment they have become more like their larger relatives, lions and jaguars. It would be nice to have more data on the size and morphology of Sri Lankan leopards. Taking inspiration from your post, here's a quick comparison between the mighty Campan of the Sabi Sands and one of Yala's big males in a very similar pose (looking straight ahead, mouths closed) with the ears about the same size for reference. Both pictures from when these males were fully mature and in good condition. As impressive as Campan is he looks like a big tom cat compared to the lionlike Sri Lankan beast.  This is why I found Anderson so impressive, he basically looks like a Sri Lankan leopard. |
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| ManEater | May 24 2015, 04:51 AM Post #1145 |
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Hello Chui, that's the point, sri lanka leopards seems to have bigger skull that the other leopards, specially longer, with their long muzzle, unique amongst leopards. If i remember well, african forest leopards too, are described with narrow and long but powerful skull. Looks like also sri lanka leopards have got a less muscular neck proportionally compared to the typical african savanna leopard, maybe because as an apex predator, they don't need to carry their prey in trees, what do you think about it ? Size comparison between campan male leopard (south africa) and a male sri lankan leopard of the same height: (we can notice the longer skull of the sri lankan male and the more compact neck of the african one) 
Edited by ManEater, May 24 2015, 04:53 AM.
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| Kurtz | May 24 2015, 05:06 AM Post #1146 |
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a male leopard from Maharashtra district India, where leopard are exact the same size of these in Kruger 63 kilos average. http://scroll.in/article/678457/leopards-can-thrive-outside-sanctuaries-without-attacking-humans-new-study-shows btwn Alexander H. the pic with Anderson at 2 yrs old with his mother is fantastic. That remember me Frodo at Phinda an imposing male followed by Guy Balme yars ago. Frodo not yet 2 years old was 65 kilograms. ...   http://mdaily.bhaskar.com/news/top-news/4444/GUJ-AHD-in-pics-nine-injured-in-leopards-deadly-attack-in-sidhpur-gujarat-4562197-PHO.html?pg=2 Edited by Kurtz, May 24 2015, 05:43 AM.
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| chui | May 24 2015, 05:45 AM Post #1147 |
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We must be fair in our comparison. Here you used the best picture of an ultimate South African leopard (Campan) with a not so impressive picture of a Sri Lankan male. That male is Hamu who is big but is not as muscular as some of the other Yala males. Keep in mind we only have pictures of around 10-15 fully mature males from Sri Lanka versus countless pictures of some 100+ different mature males from South Africa to choose from. In terms of the neck and overall musculature, I think the biggest males from Sri Lanka are not at all lacking compared to the South African leopards. The overly thick neck in leopards may have evolved initially to help carry kills vertically but in males this feature may have been maintained and even exaggerated to tackle suids IMO. The following pictures demonstrate the muscular physique of Sri Lankan male leopards. Ivan certainly has a very muscular neck.   Some other Yala males.   
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| ManEater | May 24 2015, 06:11 AM Post #1148 |
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I agree Chui, you're right, the male i choose was far from the best specimen. Here is an impressive Sri lankan specimen with his prey:  Are there studies on the number of leopards in sri lanka ? I have hard time finding accurate datas on this. For fun, a little more head comparisons between sri lanka male leopards and south african/east africans leopards: (I scaled them from the size of the ears)   Bonus, comparison with big male aberdares leopard: 
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| chui | May 24 2015, 07:32 PM Post #1149 |
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According to this 1982 paper, the total population of Sri Lankan leopards was estimated at 400-600. I would imagine it would be even lower today unfortunately. "The leopard Panthera pardus in the Ruhuna National Park, Sri Lanka" 1982  Some time ago you posted pictures of a big captive Sri Lankan male with part of his tail missing. Here are some more pictures of captive Sri Lankan leopards.     |
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| ManEater | May 24 2015, 08:23 PM Post #1150 |
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So there are even less sri lankans leopards than persian leopards, it's a very bad news, but i have better hope for their conservation, i have read that 26% of sri lanka is protected area, and Sri lanka invest a lot in tourism, so in conservation of their environment, not the case in Iran or around. PS: Yes chui, the male sri lankan leopard i have seen was the biggest leopard i have ever seen in a zoo. It was him:   More impressive than the persian leopard in the same zoo for example. Edited by ManEater, May 24 2015, 08:44 PM.
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| Alexander Hamilton | May 25 2015, 12:11 AM Post #1151 |
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Guys,i don't know if this has been shared before,but there is a leopard hunter in northern India,and he claims that the Didihat man eater is 120 kg and 8 feet 7 inches,the largest leopard he has killed.Hard to believe,though,from the photos he is that large,but still a shame such a beautiful animal was killed    http://lakhapat.blogspot.ro/2014/10/the-photo-shown-is-of-male-maneater.html |
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| Kurtz | May 25 2015, 12:33 AM Post #1152 |
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+\- 70 kilograms quite classic large male large and beautiful... seems like that pic in from north africa vintage photo posted by chui yars ago http://carnivoraforum.com/topic/9552171/5/ |
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| Deleted User | May 25 2015, 01:06 AM Post #1153 |
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I hate that they kill such brilliant animals. |
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| kuri | May 25 2015, 01:30 AM Post #1154 |
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come on guys..no full quote...this sucks |
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| Alexander Hamilton | May 25 2015, 03:51 AM Post #1155 |
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Yeah,they look very similar,that's what i thought also,around 70 kg.
Edited by Alexander Hamilton, May 25 2015, 04:50 AM.
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