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| Big territorial male leopards; Only territorial male leopards starting 60 kilograms and over | |
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| Kurtz | May 25 2015, 04:55 AM Post #1156 |
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well to be honest is always very hard to estimate the weight from pics, anyway in some pics seem even a bit less than 70 kilos. the forearms are huge, good head, the chest so and so. in any case quite decent size male. |
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| ManEater | May 26 2015, 09:28 PM Post #1157 |
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I have find this on the number of sri lanka leopards, look serious and recent, it is from 2008: "Kittle and Watson (2007) estimate that the 7,222.8 km² of Protected Areas (National Parks, Strict Nature Reserves, Sanctuaries and Conservation Forests) where leopards are known to reside have a leopard density ½ that of Block 1 Yala. Therefore (8.95 leopards/100 km²) * (7,222.8 km²) = 646.4 leopards. The remainder of the area of occupancy (11,000 km² - (7,222.8 + 140)) = 3,637.2 km² is not protected. We estimate that the population density in these unprotected areas is ½ that of the protected areas = 4.48/100 km². This results in 162.9 leopards residing in non-protected areas. In total the estimated leopard population in Sri Lanka is (25.1 in RNP, Block I) + (646.4 in Protected Areas) + (162.9 in unprotected areas) = 834.4. " ... Due to these factors it is wise to be prudent and assume large confidence intervals, making the estimated range of leopard numbers in Sri Lanka 700 – 950. " http://www.iucnredlist.org/details/15959/0  Bonus: Male indian leopard: 
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| 1977marc | May 28 2015, 05:31 PM Post #1158 |
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| Alexander Hamilton | May 30 2015, 03:57 AM Post #1159 |
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Xindlevhana male,sadly very shy so not many photos of this beast.Chui,you were saying that the largest males have small ears,so this guy must be one of the largest.From Rob the ranger:Xindlevhana: Means "Small Ears" due to his over sized head dwarfing his ears when he was a territorial male, he has lost a bit of weight now so it is not as pronounced. https://www.facebook.com/idubelodge/photos/a.111428462241421.19226.107365705981030/707742642609997/?type=1&theater  https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=625208030902555&set=a.625190477570977.1073741848.100002400914732&type=3&theater  https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=625208084235883&set=a.625190477570977.1073741848.100002400914732&type=3&theater  https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=625208110902547&set=a.625190477570977.1073741848.100002400914732&type=3&theater  https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=625207990902559&set=a.625190477570977.1073741848.100002400914732&type=3&theater |
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| Alexander Hamilton | May 31 2015, 04:37 AM Post #1160 |
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The Ottawa male https://farm1.staticflickr.com/146/378548132_b55b49a04b.jpg  https://farm1.staticflickr.com/125/378548144_58ebdf80a3.jpg |
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| chui | May 31 2015, 08:10 PM Post #1161 |
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Hi Alexander, it is by no means an exact science but it does seem big males generally have smallish looking ears as the ears don't appear to grow in proportion to the size of the head. Obviously some leopards can just have smaller than normal ears but generally speaking I think this may be a rough indicator of large size in a leopard. This point is illustrated well by this picture showing Tyson - a fully mature male, Chinga - a young female, and Frodo - an adolescent male.  http://www.sperka.biz/mlp/h2BBB9B7C#h2bbb9b7c |
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| ManEater | Jun 1 2015, 06:38 PM Post #1162 |
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 Kurtz: yes looks like a captive persian. Edited by ManEater, Jun 1 2015, 10:38 PM.
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| Kurtz | Jun 1 2015, 10:10 PM Post #1163 |
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saxicolor? |
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| 1977marc | Jun 2 2015, 07:46 PM Post #1164 |
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Well, this not meets the standard of this topic, but I think it needs to be posted 1 48 kg leopardess. JO JO is the heaviest female leopard caught in the Okonjima Nature Reserve! Her weigtht: 48kg – Body Length: 0.96m Leg Length: 0.58m Canines: Upper 3.1 cm; Lower 2.8 cm  |
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| chui | Jun 4 2015, 07:14 PM Post #1165 |
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Another shot of the powerhouse male from Gabon. These forest leopards have much larger skulls than the bushveld leopards we normally see. Several skulls from central Africa measure around 280mm long which would be a freakishly exceptional for an East or Southern African savanna leopard. With robust bodies like this and 280mm skulls, 80-90kg leopards are probably common in these areas IMO. Also speaking of ears. The ears on this beast look tiny when compared to the big Sabi Sands males like Mvula, Campan etc. As I've said before this is a different class of leopard. |
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| ManEater | Jun 4 2015, 08:39 PM Post #1166 |
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Absolutely stunning chui ! Where do you get this picture ? This is the same male than the one in this video ? ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMu-GN6lzVA ) Really marvelous, all is sensational on this specimen: forelimbs, head, chest, neck etc, one of the most impressive leopard we have seen, really exciting picture. Edited by ManEater, Jun 4 2015, 08:39 PM.
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| 1977marc | Jun 5 2015, 07:41 PM Post #1167 |
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To me this is like Camp Pan/Vin Diesel male in his prime, at least 90 kg and like chui have the feeling this is not the exception... Amazing leopard do not underestimate guys like Camp Pan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-l5kZcW2Es check out from 5:40 and this was Camp Pan not in his prime, but at age 11 |
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| ManEater | Jun 5 2015, 10:09 PM Post #1168 |
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This male gabon leopard have got far more impressive head and jaw than campan male to be honest and look more massively built overall in all sectors. (not saying campan male isn't impressive, but his head is not imo)
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| Kurtz | Jun 5 2015, 11:51 PM Post #1169 |
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biggest leopards come from north iran. there is nothing reliable that say in Kruger max out over 80 kilograms empty belly more or less the same in Oknjima. Zululand the same as more or less like kruger. Onestly i don't belive that Campan was 90 kilos empty belly. I think tyson campan and hlaralini etc. were more or less like Madiba at okonjima or Menzi or Tyson or Frodo at Phinda. only my opinion guys but i still think in kruger 80 /90 kilograms is truly exceptional and extreme fiugures and rare, by no means over that.  mr. Olimpia winner 
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| chui | Jun 6 2015, 04:03 AM Post #1170 |
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The biggest leopards come from Central Africa and Western Asia. I've said it before and I'll say it again - SKULL DATA TRUMPS ALL!! Skull measurements will always be the most reliable basis to assess the differences in size within species. I've looked at various scientific publications for info on leopard skulls and it's become very clear that leopards from Central Africa and West Asia (Iran etc) consistently produce the biggest skulls and are therefore the biggest. Unfortunately, nobody has ever really looked at all the data together properly and therefore no scientist has ever really provided an accurate analysis of the difference in size between different leopard populations. Other areas where leopards reach very large size include the East African highland forests and I think Sri Lanka as well but would like to see more data. In the past, Barbary leopards from North Africa were probably also near the top of the list but sadly we'll never really know. Then, following these areas is where the familiar East/South African savanna and Indian leopards stand. This is the opinion I currently hold after looking into this topic very deeply. Most people are too interested in weight data but don't seem to realize that it has too many problems. Not only will the weight be inflated with food in the belly but will vary with the condition of the animal both when living and post-mortem. Most cats live in environments where prey availability fluctuates throughout the year, they go through times of plenty along with lean times and their body condition will vary with that. Also, when mating male leopards will go several days without eating and will lose condition temporarily during this time as well. So the true weight of a male leopard is not a static figure but will vary constantly to some degree. Not to mention basic information on weights isn't even available for most of the leopard's range making a proper comparison impossible. Edited by chui, Jun 6 2015, 04:10 AM.
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