Welcome Guest [Log In] [Register]
Welcome to Carnivora. We hope you enjoy your visit.


You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free.


Join our community!


If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features:

Username:   Password:
Add Reply
  • Pages:
  • 1
  • 7
  • 63
Carcharodontosaurus saharicus v Tyrannosaurus rex
Topic Started: Jun 8 2012, 05:34 PM (130,020 Views)
Taipan
Member Avatar
Administrator

Carcharodontosaurus saharicus
This huge meat eater was 45 feet long (5 feet longer than T-rex) and weighed 8 tons, making it one of the largest carnivores that ever walked the earth. This African carnosaur had a gigantic 5’4" long skull and enormous jaws with 8" long serrated teeth. It walked on two legs, had a massive tail, bulky body and short arms ending in three-fingered hands with sharp claws. Carcharodontosaurus is one of the longest and heaviest known carnivorous dinosaurs, with various scientists proposing length estimates ranging between 12 and 13 m (39-43.5 ft) and weight estimates between 6 and 15 metric tons. Its long, muscular legs, and fossilized trackways indicate that it could run about 20 miles per hour, though there is some controversy as to whether it actually did, a forward fall would have been deadly to Carcharodontosaurus, due to the inability of its small arms to brace the animal when it landed. Carcharodontosaurus was a carnivore, with enormous jaws and long, serrated teeth up to eight inches long.

Posted Image

Tyrannosaurus rex
Tyrannosaurus is a genus of coelurosaurian theropod dinosaur. The species Tyrannosaurus rex (rex meaning "king" in Latin), commonly abbreviated to T. rex, is a fixture in popular culture. It lived throughout what is now western North America, with a much wider range than other tyrannosaurids. Fossils are found in a variety of rock formations dating to the Maastrichtian age of the upper Cretaceous Period, 67 to 65.5 million years ago.[1] It was among the last non-avian dinosaurs to exist before the Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event. Like other tyrannosaurids, Tyrannosaurus was a bipedal carnivore with a massive skull balanced by a long, heavy tail. Relative to the large and powerful hindlimbs, Tyrannosaurus forelimbs were small, though unusually powerful for their size, and bore two clawed digits. Although other theropods rivaled or exceeded Tyrannosaurus rex in size, it was the largest known tyrannosaurid and one of the largest known land predators. By far the largest carnivore in its environment, Tyrannosaurus rex may have been an apex predator, preying upon hadrosaurs and ceratopsians, although some experts have suggested it was primarily a scavenger. The debate over Tyrannosaurus as apex predator or scavenger is among the longest running in paleontology. Tyrannosaurus rex was one of the largest land carnivores of all time; the largest complete specimen, FMNH PR2081 ("Sue"), measured 12.8 metres (42 ft) long, and was 4.0 metres (13.1 ft) tall at the hips. Mass estimates have varied widely over the years, from more than 7.2 metric tons (7.9 short tons), to less than 4.5 metric tons (5.0 short tons), with most modern estimates ranging between 5.4 and 6.8 metric tons (6.0 and 7.5 short tons). Packard et al. (2009) tested dinosaur mass estimation procedures on elephants and concluded that dinosaur estimations are flawed and produce over-estimations; thus, the weight of Tyrannosaurus could be much less than usually estimated. Other estimations have concluded that the largest known Tyrannosaurus specimens had a weight exceeding 9 tonnes.

Posted Image

_________________________________________________________________________________

Blue orca
 
Tyrannosaurs Rex vs Carcharodontosaurus
Edited by Taipan, Apr 24 2015, 10:18 PM.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Replies:
Black Ice
Member Avatar
Drom King
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Lol its you repeating the same bull and resorting to using vulgar language.
Go watch a vid of a shark biting a seal then watch a vid of a croc crushing something. Then tell me which brings more blood.
You keep saying stronger bite?charchy countered that with longer sharper teeth and a wider gape. If rex bit charchys lower jaw charchy would bite its upper jaw sending those 8inch teeth into its skull.
You fail to realise its easier for charchy to flank rex than the other way around as it had a lighter more mobile build
Also t rex isnt gonna fight a large therapod the same as it does a trike. That was stupid to bring up rex bites trike horns etc
Charchy dealt with spinosaurus and hunted larger sauropods. Its t rex couldnt kill a sauropod at all as its crushing bite wouldnt even be able to wrap around its neck. T rex brings absolutely no adv to the fight.also you fail to understand how much more efficent charchys teeth were for tearing and ripping. But hey what the hell. Someone who calls other animals dumb when they themselves fail to inderstand rex was a dumb animal in its own right also. and keeps saying "well rex had a stronger bite" when charchy surpases it in every other aspect.
A debate can not be settled. So think what ya want but rex wont be winning more than losing
Also how is showing a skull of what charcharo did to the same species gonna help in this debate?
Edited by Black Ice, Aug 6 2012, 08:07 PM.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Tyrant
Member Avatar
Omnivore
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
Quote:
 
Lol its you repeating the same bull and resorting to using vulgar language.


No, you are constantlly suggesting things that defy physics. Plus I like cursing.

Quote:
 
Go watch a vid of a shark biting a seal then watch a vid of a croc crushing something.


A shark is adapted to kill through blood loss. A croc is adapted to dragging herbivores into water and drowning them; hardly comparable.

Quote:
 
You keep saying stronger bite?charchy countered that with longer sharper teeth and a wider gape. If rex bit charchys lower jaw charchy would bite its upper jaw sending those 8inch teeth into its skull.


Yes and barely scar it, while trex demolishes the lower jaw. Carch had a weak bite used for slicing flesh if it bites trex's upper jaws its going to cause minor bleeding and at best will scrape bone,

Quote:
 
You fail to realise its easier for charchy to flan rex than the other way around.


No its fucking not. LARGER ANIMALS ARE NATUARLLY LESS AGILE THE SMALLER ANIMALS OF COMPARABLE PHYSIQUE, ITS COMMON PHYSICS. Carch not only is heavier but also longer so its going to be less agile; and if somehow I am fucking wrong is certainly not going to be flanking trex. Mult ton animals just can't flank aware opponents that are semi similar in build.

Quote:
 
Also t rex isnt gonna fight a large therapod the same as it does a trike. That was stupid to bring up rex bites trike horns etc


The point was that trex does disable dangerous weaponry, regardless of the danger of doing so. Refuting your point of trex won't bite its lower jaw argument.

Quote:
 
Charchy dealt with spinosaurus and hunted larger sauropods.


Cougars deal with bears but never fight them. Just cause large theropods lived alongside them does not mean you can assume they fought them. And again they proably attacked juvenile sauropods through a relativly safe way; note that I say proabably as there is no fossil evidence of them actual attacking anything.

Quote:
 
Its t rex couldnt kill a sauropod at all as its crushing bite wouldnt even be able to wrap around its neck.


Okay. Your point. Carch isn't a damn sauropod.

Quote:
 
T rex brings absolutely no adv to the fight.also you fail to understand how much more efficent charchys teeth were for tearing and ripping.


And that's useless if the targetted area is a boney area with little blood. That's pretty much saying I would kill you if I stabbed you in the shoulder bone.

Quote:
 
But hey what the hell. Someone who calls other animals dumb when they themselves fail to inderstand rex was a dumb animal in its own right also.


I know its not smart. Never said it was. But charch is certainly not going to be aiming for fucking ligaments.

Quote:
 
and keeps saying "well rex had a stronger bite" when charchy surpases it in every other aspect.


Less agile(little advantage but whatever) binocular vision(also small advantage), jaws that can be used in this fight, combat experience(probably) and the ability to shrug of high blunt trauma and blood loss.

Quote:
 
A debate can not be settled. So think what ya want but rex wont be winning more than losing


Yes because your argument certainly convinced me.
Edited by Tyrant, Aug 6 2012, 08:21 PM.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Jinfengopteryx
Member Avatar
Aspiring paleontologist, science enthusiast and armchair speculative fiction/evolution writer
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Starkiller
Aug 6 2012, 06:17 PM
Posted Image
This isn't very accurate.
Greg Pauls estimates of ~6t for Sue are more accurate.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Carcharadon
Member Avatar
Shark Toothed Reptile
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
*deleted post*
Edited by Carcharadon, Oct 25 2012, 07:45 AM.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
SpinoInWonderland
The madness has come back...
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Dark allosaurus
Aug 6 2012, 10:37 PM
brolyeuphyfusion
Aug 6 2012, 07:42 PM
Superpredator
Aug 6 2012, 07:12 PM
Quote:
 
o I ask again. What does t rex bring thats gonna give it the edge in this fight?

Jaws, killing experience (killed deadlier herbivores) and a weight advantage (if the 8ton Carchara & 9ton Rex is correct).
9 tonnes for T. rex is beyond retarded, they placed unbased tissue in there just to make it heavier
....you're wrong. It IS true
So placing unbased tissue just to make T. rex larger than Carcharodontosaurus isn't retarded and fanboyish?
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Carcharadon
Member Avatar
Shark Toothed Reptile
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
*deleted post*
Edited by Carcharadon, Oct 25 2012, 07:45 AM.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
SpinoInWonderland
The madness has come back...
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Dark allosaurus
Aug 6 2012, 11:19 PM
brolyeuphyfusion
Aug 6 2012, 10:40 PM
Dark allosaurus
Aug 6 2012, 10:37 PM
brolyeuphyfusion
Aug 6 2012, 07:42 PM
Superpredator
Aug 6 2012, 07:12 PM
Quote:
 
o I ask again. What does t rex bring thats gonna give it the edge in this fight?

Jaws, killing experience (killed deadlier herbivores) and a weight advantage (if the 8ton Carchara & 9ton Rex is correct).
9 tonnes for T. rex is beyond retarded, they placed unbased tissue in there just to make it heavier
....you're wrong. It IS true
So placing unbased tissue just to make T. rex larger than Carcharodontosaurus isn't retarded and fanboyish?
Where the hell do you get your "unbased tissue"
The extra tissue in the underside!!! This is what a real T. rex should look like:
Posted Image
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Carcharadon
Member Avatar
Shark Toothed Reptile
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
*deleted post*
Edited by Carcharadon, Oct 25 2012, 07:45 AM.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Jinfengopteryx
Member Avatar
Aspiring paleontologist, science enthusiast and armchair speculative fiction/evolution writer
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
But it would be to slow like that.
How it should accelerate fast enough to catch a Hadrosaur?
Also it's bones are HOLLOW.
Greg Pauls estimates for Sue seem to be much more likely.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
SpinoInWonderland
The madness has come back...
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Dark allosaurus
Aug 6 2012, 11:31 PM
brolyeuphyfusion
Aug 6 2012, 11:27 PM
Dark allosaurus
Aug 6 2012, 11:19 PM
brolyeuphyfusion
Aug 6 2012, 10:40 PM
Dark allosaurus
Aug 6 2012, 10:37 PM
brolyeuphyfusion
Aug 6 2012, 07:42 PM
Superpredator
Aug 6 2012, 07:12 PM
Quote:
 
o I ask again. What does t rex bring thats gonna give it the edge in this fight?

Jaws, killing experience (killed deadlier herbivores) and a weight advantage (if the 8ton Carchara & 9ton Rex is correct).
9 tonnes for T. rex is beyond retarded, they placed unbased tissue in there just to make it heavier
....you're wrong. It IS true
So placing unbased tissue just to make T. rex larger than Carcharodontosaurus isn't retarded and fanboyish?
Where the hell do you get your "unbased tissue"
The extra tissue in the underside!!! This is what a real T. rex should look like:
Posted Image
Tyrannosaurus rex grew twice as fast as previously thought
It'll say that T.rex is 9 tons. I'm not kidding.
Note that they did not use the laser scan technique on other dinosaurs, that shows how biased they are. If you use the maximum 9 tonnes for T. rex, then you can't use the minimum of 6 tonnes for Carcharodontosaurus!! We must use the maximum of 15 tonnes for Carcharodontosaurus. So, Carcharodontosaurus still wins.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Carcharadon
Member Avatar
Shark Toothed Reptile
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
*deleted post*
Edited by Carcharadon, Oct 25 2012, 07:45 AM.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Jinfengopteryx
Member Avatar
Aspiring paleontologist, science enthusiast and armchair speculative fiction/evolution writer
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Well, weight can get hindering to the animal, if it's too much, just saying....
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Themetalboa
Autotrophic Organism
[ *  * ]
Tyrannosaurus Rex has a MUCH, MUCH, MUCH more bigger stronger bite force and can kill a carchadontosaurus.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Mauro20
Member Avatar
Badass
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
My vote goes to the T-Rex.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Jinfengopteryx
Member Avatar
Aspiring paleontologist, science enthusiast and armchair speculative fiction/evolution writer
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Themetalboa
Aug 13 2012, 01:12 AM
Tyrannosaurus Rex has a MUCH, MUCH, MUCH more bigger stronger bite force and can kill a carchadontosaurus.
According to coherentsheaf it wasn't "MUCH, MUCH, MUCH more bigger stronger".
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
2 users reading this topic (2 Guests and 0 Anonymous)
ZetaBoards - Free Forum Hosting
Create a free forum in seconds.
Go to Next Page
« Previous Topic · Dinosauria Interspecific Conflict · Next Topic »
Add Reply
  • Pages:
  • 1
  • 7
  • 63

Find this theme on Forum2Forum.net & ZNR exclusively.