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rat attacks group of cats
Topic Started: Jun 9 2012, 06:23 PM (8,266 Views)
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Actually I've changed my view on this. A fight at parity between a jack russell and a Healthy Tom cat could go either way. I have handled both animals.
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I will always side with any dog worth being called a jack russell over a domestic cat.
I've handled both animals, that said I could honestly know squat about how both would be in a fight unless you have at least seen one working in the field.

Terriers like jack russells are used to kill feral cats single handily and in pairs, and generally the only worry for the dogs is the infections from the dirty cats.

Just to clarify before I start an even bigger outrage; I do admit a big tom cat or just about any healthy cat can fight off a jack russell and escape. My point is that the dog would kill the cat in the event it could not.
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Yeah, terriers are amazingly fast at dispatching animals quickly before they can even react., Who do you think is stronger, a Jrt or a tom cat at the same weight?
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Felinepowah whats the weight of of a large tom cat?
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k9boy
Jun 10 2012, 07:08 AM
Yeah, terriers are amazingly fast at dispatching animals quickly before they can even react., Who do you think is stronger, a Jrt or a tom cat at the same weight?
If you are referring to overall I would favor the terrier, but if we single out certain body parts such as forelimbs and hind limbs the cat would be superior.

The body of the terrier would be more compact and muscular. Unlike that of the cat, the chest/body region it plays a much larger roll in killing and attacking for the terrier.
Many posters note the advantages of the forelimbs of felines but few pay any attention to how the dog easily compensates by using their whole body and jaws when attacking and subduing.

While the domestic cat has it's paws occupied on the opponent, the terriers forelimbs are free, braced on the ground to aid the rest of the body. Force starts from the ground so the planted limbs of the dog will add a lot more energy to the biting and shaking when executed at once.


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to be fair for the cats, if one wanted to fight, the rat would be dead.
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ak47
Jun 9 2012, 06:23 PM
cats will only attack by ambush and will never fight head on.
Thats bullshit. Cats have far more serious 1 on 1 fights than dogs leading to fatalities. Apart from a few instances with wolves, the canine crew can't find any 1 on 1 fatal fights for canines. This is not the case for cats with detailed cases of felines from lynx & ocelot through to lions and tigers killining each others in fights exists.
Canines simply are inferior fighters with inferior weaponary.
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Taipan
Jun 10 2012, 02:51 PM
ak47
Jun 9 2012, 06:23 PM
cats will only attack by ambush and will never fight head on.
Thats bullshit. Cats have far more serious 1 on 1 fights than dogs leading to fatalities. Apart from a few instances with wolves, the canine crew can't find any 1 on 1 fatal fights for canines. This is not the case for cats with detailed cases of felines from lynx & ocelot through to lions and tigers killining each others in fights exists.
Canines simply are inferior fighters with inferior weaponary.
What about vs other species?
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Jun 10 2012, 08:32 AM
k9boy
Jun 10 2012, 07:08 AM
Yeah, terriers are amazingly fast at dispatching animals quickly before they can even react., Who do you think is stronger, a Jrt or a tom cat at the same weight?
If you are referring to overall I would favor the terrier, but if we single out certain body parts such as forelimbs and hind limbs the cat would be superior.

The body of the terrier would be more compact and muscular. Unlike that of the cat, the chest/body region it plays a much larger roll in killing and attacking for the terrier.
Many posters note the advantages of the forelimbs of felines but few pay any attention to how the dog easily compensates by using their whole body and jaws when attacking and subduing.

While the domestic cat has it's paws occupied on the opponent, the terriers forelimbs are free, braced on the ground to aid the rest of the body. Force starts from the ground so the planted limbs of the dog will add a lot more energy to the biting and shaking when executed at once.


Yeah, The terrier would win more often. The biggest advantage is there mentality. Dogs always feel more compact then cats, when you pick up a cat you cant feel any muscles. But say if your trying to hold an angry cat that is trying to get away, then you can feel how muscular they are.
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Jun 10 2012, 02:51 PM
ak47
Jun 9 2012, 06:23 PM
cats will only attack by ambush and will never fight head on.
Thats bullshit. Cats have far more serious 1 on 1 fights than dogs leading to fatalities. Apart from a few instances with wolves, the canine crew can't find any 1 on 1 fatal fights for canines. This is not the case for cats with detailed cases of felines from lynx & ocelot through to lions and tigers killining each others in fights exists.
Canines simply are inferior fighters with inferior weaponary.
I can post videos of dog killing dog, dog killing fox, dog killing cat dog killing bobcat but I'm sure it would be breaching your rules?

When I say "cats" i was refering to the domestic cat, I'm a big fan of the leopard & cougar for the way they engage in battle.
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What kind of dog was it that killed the bobcat?
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patterdale (wheeler line)
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There's some butthurt up in here lol
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Taipan
Jun 10 2012, 02:51 PM
ak47
Jun 9 2012, 06:23 PM
cats will only attack by ambush and will never fight head on.
Thats bullshit. Cats have far more serious 1 on 1 fights than dogs leading to fatalities. Apart from a few instances with wolves, the canine crew can't find any 1 on 1 fatal fights for canines. This is not the case for cats with detailed cases of felines from lynx & ocelot through to lions and tigers killining each others in fights exists.
Canines simply are inferior fighters with inferior weaponary.
here we go again.
Domestic canines kill each other numerous of times in fights. You on the other hand only focus on wild canines knowing that one on one fighs would be rare in the natural wolrd of these social species.

I noted many fights on domestic dogs such a bully kuttas and other mixed breeds killing each other in less than 2 minutes. Obviously your very selective with your term of one on one fights regarding canines.
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ak47
Jun 10 2012, 05:46 PM
I can post videos of dog killing dog, dog killing fox, dog killing cat dog killing bobcat but I'm sure it would be breaching your rules?


Yes, you can save that kind of organised animal cruelty for your own viewing pleasure.

ak47
Jun 10 2012, 05:46 PM
Taipan
Jun 10 2012, 02:51 PM
ak47
Jun 9 2012, 06:23 PM
cats will only attack by ambush and will never fight head on.
Thats bullshit. Cats have far more serious 1 on 1 fights than dogs leading to fatalities. Apart from a few instances with wolves, the canine crew can't find any 1 on 1 fatal fights for canines. This is not the case for cats with detailed cases of felines from lynx & ocelot through to lions and tigers killining each others in fights exists.
Canines simply are inferior fighters with inferior weaponary.


When I say "cats" i was refering to the domestic cat, I'm a big fan of the leopard & cougar for the way they engage in battle.


Well you are wrong again too with domestic cats, because they do fight head on. For you to say "will never fight head on" is clearly one very ignorant comment. As stated by another member "ak47 You obviously know f/k all about cats".
I think everyone would have to agree with him. As you are obviously very ignorant, I suggest a newbie like you attempt to learn rather than further embarrass yourself with grossly stupid comments.

Edited by Taipan, Jun 10 2012, 10:36 PM.
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