How formidable is felis sylvestris?

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How formidable is felis sylvestris?
Topic Started: Jun 13 2012, 02:04 AM (891 Views)
k9boy	Jun 13 2012, 02:04 AM Post #1
Posts: 2,607 Group: Members Member #254 Joined: Mar 26, 2012	How strong is a housecat lb for lb? Who would be stronger at equel weights A housecat or a cheetah A housecat or a labrador A housecat or a GSD And does anyone know how much muscle mass your average cat has? Any studies? Thanks



theropod	Jun 13 2012, 02:16 AM Post #2
palaeontology, open source and survival enthusiast Posts: 6,433 Group: Members Member #301 Joined: Apr 29, 2012	I´m sure a housecat would be stronger than a cheetah at parity.
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Lycaon	Jun 13 2012, 01:45 PM Post #3
Posts: 702 Group: Members Member #84 Joined: Jan 14, 2012	I believe felis sylvestris are formidable animals. Where they are hunted they have left hunting terriers pretty cut up on their muzzles and legs before finally being killed by the dog...Just noticed you were referring the the house cat and not the actual wildcat. The former is less impressive than its' wild kin. From what information I have gathered, the wildcat felis sylvestris, is a more difficult opponent than the feral cat but it fights virtually the same. But the jump is not as different as opposed to a domestic dog vs a wolf. That said I would naturally assume the cheetah to be the stronger of the two for its' size. Edited by Lycaon, Jun 13 2012, 01:46 PM.
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Godzillasaurus	Jun 16 2012, 08:16 AM Post #4
Reptile Expert Posts: 1,438 Group: Members Member #143 Joined: Jan 25, 2012	k9boy Jun 13 2012, 02:04 AM How strong is a housecat lb for lb? Who would be stronger at equel weights A housecat or a cheetah A housecat or a labrador A housecat or a GSD And does anyone know how much muscle mass your average cat has? Any studies? Thanks Well, I can tell you for sure that a cat that is the same size as a dog would be stronger. So, pound for pound, cats are stronger than dogs. Although I really don't know if a housecat is pound for pound stronger than a cheetah.
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Lycaon	Jun 17 2012, 03:20 AM Post #5
Posts: 702 Group: Members Member #84 Joined: Jan 14, 2012	Godzillaman Jun 16 2012, 08:16 AM Well, I can tell you for sure that a cat that is the same size as a dog would be stronger. So, pound for pound, cats are stronger than dogs. Although I really don't know if a housecat is pound for pound stronger than a cheetah. I would easily favor a working terrier over a heavier domestic cat. Nothing suggests the cat is stronger
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Bandog	Jun 18 2012, 01:49 AM Post #6
Posts: 1,427 Group: Members Member #25 Joined: Jan 8, 2012	Godzillaman Jun 16 2012, 08:16 AM k9boy Jun 13 2012, 02:04 AM How strong is a housecat lb for lb? Who would be stronger at equel weights A housecat or a cheetah A housecat or a labrador A housecat or a GSD And does anyone know how much muscle mass your average cat has? Any studies? Thanks Well, I can tell you for sure that a cat that is the same size as a dog would be stronger. So, pound for pound, cats are stronger than dogs. Although I really don't know if a housecat is pound for pound stronger than a cheetah. If you consult the muscle info thread, you would find that to be quite incorrect.
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FelinePowah	Jun 18 2012, 03:39 AM Post #7
Pussy Lover Posts: 1,951 Group: Members Member #66 Joined: Jan 13, 2012	Id rather have to face an angry small dog then an angry domestic cat thats for sure.



k9boy	Jun 18 2012, 04:32 PM Post #8
Posts: 2,607 Group: Members Member #254 Joined: Mar 26, 2012	Lycaon Jun 17 2012, 03:20 AM Godzillaman Jun 16 2012, 08:16 AM Well, I can tell you for sure that a cat that is the same size as a dog would be stronger. So, pound for pound, cats are stronger than dogs. Although I really don't know if a housecat is pound for pound stronger than a cheetah. I would easily favor a working terrier over a heavier domestic cat. Nothing suggests the cat is stronger How do you know the dog is stronger?



FelinePowah	Jun 18 2012, 05:22 PM Post #9
Pussy Lover Posts: 1,951 Group: Members Member #66 Joined: Jan 13, 2012	k9boy Jun 18 2012, 04:32 PM Lycaon Jun 17 2012, 03:20 AM Godzillaman Jun 16 2012, 08:16 AM Well, I can tell you for sure that a cat that is the same size as a dog would be stronger. So, pound for pound, cats are stronger than dogs. Although I really don't know if a housecat is pound for pound stronger than a cheetah. I would easily favor a working terrier over a heavier domestic cat. Nothing suggests the cat is stronger How do you know the dog is stronger? He doesnt, its just his opinion.



Hyaena	Jun 18 2012, 06:17 PM Post #10
Hyaenidae & Canidae enthusiast Posts: 1,846 Group: Members Member #32 Joined: Jan 9, 2012	A domestic cat is not stronger than a working terrier. For crying out loud.



k9boy	Jun 18 2012, 06:18 PM Post #11
Posts: 2,607 Group: Members Member #254 Joined: Mar 26, 2012	Well in terms of strength they both have there weakest and strongest points. The cat has stronger limbs, and the dog has a stronger neck and bite. I'm not sure who has the stronger body though, terriers are pretty solid, but ever tried to hold down an angry tom? But In a fight i'd favour the terrier, I'm just saying it will not be an easy 9/10 win for the dog. Edited by k9boy, Jun 18 2012, 06:19 PM.



Bandog	Jun 18 2012, 07:24 PM Post #12
Posts: 1,427 Group: Members Member #25 Joined: Jan 8, 2012	There would be little difference in strength between the two in both the body and limbs. The difference lies in flexibility and motivation.
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Lycaon	Jun 19 2012, 04:30 AM Post #13
Posts: 702 Group: Members Member #84 Joined: Jan 14, 2012	k9boy Jun 18 2012, 04:32 PM Lycaon Jun 17 2012, 03:20 AM Godzillaman Jun 16 2012, 08:16 AM Well, I can tell you for sure that a cat that is the same size as a dog would be stronger. So, pound for pound, cats are stronger than dogs. Although I really don't know if a housecat is pound for pound stronger than a cheetah. I would easily favor a working terrier over a heavier domestic cat. Nothing suggests the cat is stronger How do you know the dog is stronger? Because terries kill both wild and domestic felis sylvestris. I'm not really one to presuppose upon scientific mechanics; I am more of an observer. If a terrier is to out muscle a cat I don't need to know exactly what muscles joints were specifically involved. That said I do know that the terrier uses its' torso more effectively than that of a cat when dealing damage. According to ursus's study; having more robust limbs do not always mean the owner posses stronger limbs. Flexibly is the issue behind the increased muscle mass, therefor the less flexible canid is going to have the stronger forelimb for its' muscle mass. Note how the upper arm, biceps and triceps muscles, are relatively the same size due to having similar mechanics. I have never been one to argue the forelimbs being the indicator of who is stronger in the first place. Edited by Lycaon, Jun 19 2012, 04:34 AM.
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FelinePowah	Jun 19 2012, 09:54 AM Post #14
Pussy Lover Posts: 1,951 Group: Members Member #66 Joined: Jan 13, 2012	Lycaon Jun 19 2012, 04:30 AM k9boy Jun 18 2012, 04:32 PM Lycaon Jun 17 2012, 03:20 AM Godzillaman Jun 16 2012, 08:16 AM Well, I can tell you for sure that a cat that is the same size as a dog would be stronger. So, pound for pound, cats are stronger than dogs. Although I really don't know if a housecat is pound for pound stronger than a cheetah. I would easily favor a working terrier over a heavier domestic cat. Nothing suggests the cat is stronger How do you know the dog is stronger? Because terries kill both wild and domestic felis sylvestris. I'm not really one to presuppose upon scientific mechanics; I am more of an observer. If a terrier is to out muscle a cat I don't need to know exactly what muscles joints were specifically involved. That said I do know that the terrier uses its' torso more effectively than that of a cat when dealing damage. According to ursus's study; having more robust limbs do not always mean the owner posses stronger limbs. Flexibly is the issue behind the increased muscle mass, therefor the less flexible canid is going to have the stronger forelimb for its' muscle mass. Note how the upper arm, biceps and triceps muscles, are relatively the same size due to having similar mechanics. I have never been one to argue the forelimbs being the indicator of who is stronger in the first place. The amount of force a terrier could put into its forelimbs is well below a domestic cat you only have to play with a dog and cat to find that out and lets not even get started about the rear limbs.



Hyaena	Jun 19 2012, 02:40 PM Post #15
Hyaenidae & Canidae enthusiast Posts: 1,846 Group: Members Member #32 Joined: Jan 9, 2012	FelinePowah Jun 19 2012, 09:54 AM Lycaon Jun 19 2012, 04:30 AM k9boy Jun 18 2012, 04:32 PM Lycaon Jun 17 2012, 03:20 AM Godzillaman Jun 16 2012, 08:16 AM Well, I can tell you for sure that a cat that is the same size as a dog would be stronger. So, pound for pound, cats are stronger than dogs. Although I really don't know if a housecat is pound for pound stronger than a cheetah. I would easily favor a working terrier over a heavier domestic cat. Nothing suggests the cat is stronger How do you know the dog is stronger? Because terries kill both wild and domestic felis sylvestris. I'm not really one to presuppose upon scientific mechanics; I am more of an observer. If a terrier is to out muscle a cat I don't need to know exactly what muscles joints were specifically involved. That said I do know that the terrier uses its' torso more effectively than that of a cat when dealing damage. According to ursus's study; having more robust limbs do not always mean the owner posses stronger limbs. Flexibly is the issue behind the increased muscle mass, therefor the less flexible canid is going to have the stronger forelimb for its' muscle mass. Note how the upper arm, biceps and triceps muscles, are relatively the same size due to having similar mechanics. I have never been one to argue the forelimbs being the indicator of who is stronger in the first place. The amount of force a terrier could put into its forelimbs is well below a domestic cat you only have to play with a dog and cat to find that out and lets not even get started about the rear limbs. I've handled both. The terrier is stronger.



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