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| Dire Wolf v Spotted Hyena | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 17 2012, 05:58 PM (37,514 Views) | |
| Taipan | Jun 17 2012, 05:58 PM Post #1 |
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Dire Wolf - Canis dirus The Dire wolf (Canis dirus) is an extinct carnivorous mammal of the genus Canis, and was most common in North America and South America from the Irvingtonian stage to the Rancholabrean stage of the Pleistocene epoch living 1.80 Ma – 10,000 years ago, existing for approximately 1.79 million years. lthough it was closely related to the Gray Wolf and other sister species, Canis dirus was not the direct ancestor of any species known today. Unlike the Gray Wolf, which is of Eurasian origin, the Dire Wolf evolved on the North American continent, along with the Coyote. The Dire Wolf co-existed with the Gray Wolf in North America for about 100,000 years. The dire wolf was about the same size as the largest modern gray wolves (Canis lupus), which are the Yukon wolf and the northwestern wolf. C. d. guildayi weighed on average 60 kilograms (132 lb) and C. d. dirus was on average 68 kg (150 lb). Despite superficial similarities to the Gray Wolf, there were significant differences between the two species. The legs of the Dire Wolf were proportionally shorter and sturdier than those of the Gray Wolf, and its brain case was smaller than that of a similarly sized gray wolf. The Dire Wolf's teeth were similar to the Gray Wolf's, only slightly larger, pointing to a hypercarnivorous to mesocarnivorous activity. Paleontologist R.M. Nowak states the dietary characteristics are primarily carnivorous as well as partially omnivorous. ![]() Spotted Hyena - Crocuta crocuta The spotted hyena (Crocuta crocuta), also known as the laughing hyena or tiger wolf, is a species of hyena native to Sub-Saharan Africa. It is listed as Least Concern by the IUCN on account of its widespread range and large numbers estimated at 10,000 individuals. The spotted hyena is the largest extant member of the Hyaenidae.[43] Adults measure 95.0—165.8 cm in body length, and have a shoulder height of 70.0-91.5 cm. Adult male spotted hyenas in the Serengeti weigh 40.5—55.0 kg (89—121 lb), while females weigh 44.5—63.9 kg (98—141 lb). Spotted hyenas in Zambia tend to be heavier, with males weighing on average 67.6 kg (149 lb), and females 69.2 kg (153 lb). Exceptionally large weights of 81.7 kg (180 lb) and 86 kg (190 lb) are known. It has been estimated that adult members of the now extinct Eurasian populations weighed 102 kg (225 lbs). ______________________________________________________________________
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| mohamad | Jun 17 2012, 07:00 PM Post #2 |
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i think the difference about the 2 animals is which hyena is more defensive and musculer but dire wolf is very dangerous animals. i dont voted yet but i think 6/10 hyena wins |
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| k9boy | Jun 17 2012, 07:35 PM Post #3 |
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Hyena is still too powerful. |
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| Sam1 | Jun 17 2012, 07:53 PM Post #4 |
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Dire wolf is too much for the hyena. It was an epic, true macro predator with huge packs of up to 50-80 hunters, going after bisons and other large prey(average prey mass was around 500kg, according to some estimates). On top of that, his jaws were even stronger and more deadly than hyena's. |
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| Megafelis Fatalis | Jun 17 2012, 08:02 PM Post #5 |
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The Dire Wolf was more muscular than Grey Wolves, and it had a stronger bite. It fought with Deadly Predators (3 Short Faced Bear species - Brown Bears - Smilodon - Homotherium - Xenosmilus - American Lions ...........)
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| k9boy | Jun 17 2012, 08:10 PM Post #6 |
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Could a dire wolf survive being choked by leopards and lions? |
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| DinosaurMichael | Jun 17 2012, 09:09 PM Post #7 |
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Hyena wins. Better durability, and much more stronger jaws. |
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| Sam1 | Jun 17 2012, 09:25 PM Post #8 |
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You obviously don't know much about Dire wolves Dino Mike. It's bite was probably more powerful than that of the spotted hyena. And k9, are you even aware that this canine shared the habitat with American lions, short faced bears, and smilodons? And tackled the same prey that they did -bisons, camels, horses and giant sloths. Modern African plains are like a kindergarten compared to that America. |
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| DinosaurMichael | Jun 17 2012, 09:32 PM Post #9 |
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Really? I didn't know. Also the Dire Wolf may have a stronger bite, but does the Dire Wolf have the durability to survive being attacked by Lions. I hear Hyenas durability is so strong that even when mauled by Lions like being bitten in the neck and all that. Hyenas survive. That puts it at an advantage. If the Hyena can survive worse from a Lion. Then likely it could survive from a Dire Wolf. So the durability of the Hyena would give it the win in my opinion. Edited by DinosaurMichael, Jun 17 2012, 09:38 PM.
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| Sam1 | Jun 17 2012, 10:11 PM Post #10 |
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That is a pretty silly argument to begin with. It's not a choke durability testing, but a fight, and this is about who would gain the upper hand in that fight. Besides, cases when a hyena doesn't last even ten seconds after being caught by a male lion are more common than what you bring up. It's like saying, oh that one pitbull took 15 gun shots before dying. That's more than a black bear would normally take, so pitbull>black bear. |
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| DinosaurMichael | Jun 17 2012, 10:12 PM Post #11 |
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Well my vote still goes to the Hyena anyway. But that's just my opinion. The Dire Wolf does have a better chance than the Gray Wolf though. |
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| k9boy | Jun 17 2012, 10:25 PM Post #12 |
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Your point being? All of those carnivores you listed would kill a dire wolf very quickly. And yes they tackled all those big herbivores, in packs that is. |
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| Elephantus | Jun 18 2012, 01:14 AM Post #13 |
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This is almost like Striped Hyena vs Gray Wolf. I would support the wolf in that case, and I support the wolf overhere as well. Wolves seem like better fighters, more mobile and efficient at killing. But of course the hyena will be a tough opponent. |
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| Neofelis | Jun 18 2012, 01:22 AM Post #14 |
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I support the Dire wolf in this one too. We can't prove the Dire wolf's durability but Grey wolves survive kicks from Bison and Elk so I don't know a about Dire Wolves. |
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| Wild | Jun 18 2012, 02:11 AM Post #15 |
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Heck no! Hyena takes this due to its extreme durability and pain tolerance. |
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