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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 17 2012, 05:58 PM (37,525 Views) | |
| Taipan | Jun 17 2012, 05:58 PM Post #1 |
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Dire Wolf - Canis dirus The Dire wolf (Canis dirus) is an extinct carnivorous mammal of the genus Canis, and was most common in North America and South America from the Irvingtonian stage to the Rancholabrean stage of the Pleistocene epoch living 1.80 Ma – 10,000 years ago, existing for approximately 1.79 million years. lthough it was closely related to the Gray Wolf and other sister species, Canis dirus was not the direct ancestor of any species known today. Unlike the Gray Wolf, which is of Eurasian origin, the Dire Wolf evolved on the North American continent, along with the Coyote. The Dire Wolf co-existed with the Gray Wolf in North America for about 100,000 years. The dire wolf was about the same size as the largest modern gray wolves (Canis lupus), which are the Yukon wolf and the northwestern wolf. C. d. guildayi weighed on average 60 kilograms (132 lb) and C. d. dirus was on average 68 kg (150 lb). Despite superficial similarities to the Gray Wolf, there were significant differences between the two species. The legs of the Dire Wolf were proportionally shorter and sturdier than those of the Gray Wolf, and its brain case was smaller than that of a similarly sized gray wolf. The Dire Wolf's teeth were similar to the Gray Wolf's, only slightly larger, pointing to a hypercarnivorous to mesocarnivorous activity. Paleontologist R.M. Nowak states the dietary characteristics are primarily carnivorous as well as partially omnivorous. ![]() Spotted Hyena - Crocuta crocuta The spotted hyena (Crocuta crocuta), also known as the laughing hyena or tiger wolf, is a species of hyena native to Sub-Saharan Africa. It is listed as Least Concern by the IUCN on account of its widespread range and large numbers estimated at 10,000 individuals. The spotted hyena is the largest extant member of the Hyaenidae.[43] Adults measure 95.0—165.8 cm in body length, and have a shoulder height of 70.0-91.5 cm. Adult male spotted hyenas in the Serengeti weigh 40.5—55.0 kg (89—121 lb), while females weigh 44.5—63.9 kg (98—141 lb). Spotted hyenas in Zambia tend to be heavier, with males weighing on average 67.6 kg (149 lb), and females 69.2 kg (153 lb). Exceptionally large weights of 81.7 kg (180 lb) and 86 kg (190 lb) are known. It has been estimated that adult members of the now extinct Eurasian populations weighed 102 kg (225 lbs). ______________________________________________________________________
Edited by Taipan, Oct 15 2017, 05:22 PM.
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| kingkazma | Mar 30 2014, 02:45 AM Post #166 |
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Well animal king LOST HIS SHIT after losing a debate with me, da pink(I think), and someone else on the dog breeds more capable of defeating a timber wolf thread. He cussed us out and asked taipan to block him.
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| Black Ice | Mar 30 2014, 02:58 AM Post #167 |
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must've been lacking in the size department if you catch my drift.
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| kingkazma | Mar 30 2014, 03:06 AM Post #168 |
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dude!
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| Superpredator | Mar 30 2014, 03:19 AM Post #169 |
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I support the dire wolf. It's more robust, more agile and has a stronger bite (not sure about the bite). |
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| kingkazma | Mar 30 2014, 03:27 AM Post #170 |
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More like it can take chunks out of the hyenas hindquarters by simply hanging on. And don't forget, these things tangled with HUGE prey and toke deadly injuries quite often. |
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| Superpredator | Mar 30 2014, 03:47 AM Post #171 |
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So which has the stronger bite? Sorry if this has already been answered. |
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| Black Ice | Mar 30 2014, 03:50 AM Post #172 |
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Dire wolves bit 60% harder than Grey Wolves which have a bite similar to a hyenas. Even if the hyena did bite slightly harder it wouldn't matter, dire wolf possessed far more lethal dentition. |
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| Superpredator | Mar 30 2014, 03:52 AM Post #173 |
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Thanks BI. |
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| Koolyote | Mar 30 2014, 04:00 AM Post #174 |
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I thought Spotted Hyenas had a much stronger bite than Grey Wolves.
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| Black Ice | Mar 30 2014, 04:04 AM Post #175 |
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Grey wolves can crunch bone just like hyena to a lesser extent, however Grey wolf have more lethal and efficient dentition. Hence saying a hyena wins to stronger bite is irrelevant. Stronger bite alone doesn't make for superior jaws. Edited by Black Ice, Mar 30 2014, 04:16 AM.
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| Superpredator | Mar 30 2014, 04:05 AM Post #176 |
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Greg wolf
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| kingkazma | Mar 30 2014, 04:07 AM Post #177 |
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They are also 70% larger. |
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| Vita | Mar 30 2014, 04:08 AM Post #178 |
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Not at the canines, and otherwise it's not drastically different, with the hyena having a slight edge. But that's the gray wolf, the dire wolf is another ball game. It's not "slightly" more powerful than gray wolves, its strength and bite force, for the most part would best any extant hyena today. Dire wolves aren't talked about much around here and it's a shame. Imagine if such a canine were alive today? They weren't THAT much larger than some impressive (and big) breeding males, but they were built to exert more force and that's something to take into consideration. |
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| Molosser | Jul 31 2014, 04:32 AM Post #179 |
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The dire wolf was a but heavier than a large grey wolf but they were much stronger and more durable if I'm not mistaken.. The spotted hyena is on par with the dire wolf when it comes to durability and strength but the wolf should've been more athletic and nimble, and their retaliation strategy is impressive. I'd say the wolf takes this 6/10 |
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| Molosser | Jul 31 2014, 04:35 AM Post #180 |
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@ kingkazma this is a bit inaccurate.. The average grey wolf is about 110 lbs and I don't think the average dire wolf weighed 180 lbs, 150-160 was more like it. |
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must've been lacking in the size department if you catch my drift.
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10:01 AM Jul 11