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Dire Wolf v Spotted Hyena
Topic Started: Jun 17 2012, 05:58 PM (37,523 Views)
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Dire Wolf - Canis dirus
The Dire wolf (Canis dirus) is an extinct carnivorous mammal of the genus Canis, and was most common in North America and South America from the Irvingtonian stage to the Rancholabrean stage of the Pleistocene epoch living 1.80 Ma – 10,000 years ago, existing for approximately 1.79 million years. lthough it was closely related to the Gray Wolf and other sister species, Canis dirus was not the direct ancestor of any species known today. Unlike the Gray Wolf, which is of Eurasian origin, the Dire Wolf evolved on the North American continent, along with the Coyote. The Dire Wolf co-existed with the Gray Wolf in North America for about 100,000 years. The dire wolf was about the same size as the largest modern gray wolves (Canis lupus), which are the Yukon wolf and the northwestern wolf. C. d. guildayi weighed on average 60 kilograms (132 lb) and C. d. dirus was on average 68 kg (150 lb). Despite superficial similarities to the Gray Wolf, there were significant differences between the two species. The legs of the Dire Wolf were proportionally shorter and sturdier than those of the Gray Wolf, and its brain case was smaller than that of a similarly sized gray wolf. The Dire Wolf's teeth were similar to the Gray Wolf's, only slightly larger, pointing to a hypercarnivorous to mesocarnivorous activity. Paleontologist R.M. Nowak states the dietary characteristics are primarily carnivorous as well as partially omnivorous.

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Spotted Hyena - Crocuta crocuta
The spotted hyena (Crocuta crocuta), also known as the laughing hyena or tiger wolf, is a species of hyena native to Sub-Saharan Africa. It is listed as Least Concern by the IUCN on account of its widespread range and large numbers estimated at 10,000 individuals. The spotted hyena is the largest extant member of the Hyaenidae.[43] Adults measure 95.0—165.8 cm in body length, and have a shoulder height of 70.0-91.5 cm. Adult male spotted hyenas in the Serengeti weigh 40.5—55.0 kg (89—121 lb), while females weigh 44.5—63.9 kg (98—141 lb). Spotted hyenas in Zambia tend to be heavier, with males weighing on average 67.6 kg (149 lb), and females 69.2 kg (153 lb). Exceptionally large weights of 81.7 kg (180 lb) and 86 kg (190 lb) are known. It has been estimated that adult members of the now extinct Eurasian populations weighed 102 kg (225 lbs).

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How about Spotted hyena vs Dire wolf?


Edited by Taipan, Oct 15 2017, 05:22 PM.
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Ceratodromeus
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Jan 29 2016, 04:41 AM
Hyena kill adult wildebeest  :'( Stupid

Where a hyena wins?

They're one of the leading causes of predator induced mortality in AWD's, so posting this video really doesn't mean anything.

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Stupid

Think before you post, then.
Edited by Ceratodromeus, Jan 29 2016, 06:50 AM.
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Jul 31 2014, 04:38 AM
The bite force issue is being overrated people.. If both animals have sufficient jaw strength to deliver a killing bite then it doesn't matter which one can bite harder. I'm more than certain that this is the case here.
This post needs to be stickied to the forums board.
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Dire wolf 7/10 of the time
wolf hunt caribou new vid[/URL


Check it out
Edited by ZOANTHROPY, Jul 15 2016, 07:48 AM.
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i give this to hyena,more stronger bite,even leopard get scared of hyena, and leopard is stronger than dire wolf.
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At canines dire wolf I think hav a stronger bite but overall hyena has a bit higher bite force. I respect your opinion but the leopard I believe is irrelevant in doesn't back anything up cuz leopards can harm hyenas.

I changed my mind

Dire wolf 6/10
Hyena has a chance tho I believe the dire wolf is a bit better suited
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Hyena has a chance tho I believe the dire wolf is a bit better suited

in what regard?
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A decent argument can be made for a Grey Wolf beating a Spotted Hyena at equal weights, especially the more stockily built northern ones.

A Dire Wolf not only has a weight advantage but is basically a superior grey wolf (whether a GW is on par with a equal weighted SH can be argued either way).

But if people will favor a Hyena over a Grey Wolf, they should obviously via common consistency favor a larger Dire Wolf over that same Spotted Hyena.
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Black Ice
Jul 15 2016, 09:57 AM
A decent argument can be made for a Grey Wolf beating a Spotted Hyena at equal weights, especially the more stockily built northern ones.

A Dire Wolf not only has a weight advantage but is basically a superior grey wolf (whether a GW is on par with a equal weighted SH can be argued either way).

But if people will favor a Hyena over a Grey Wolf, they should obviously via common consistency favor a larger Dire Wolf over that same Spotted Hyena.
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A Dire Wolf not only has a weight advantage but is basically a superior grey wolf (whether a GW is on par with a equal weighted SH can be argued either way).


Correct me if I'm wrong but haven't dire wolf been recently down sized at about 150 pounds for the largest population discover? I don't know the average weight of the spotted hyena but it's probably not to far from that.
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No, they're still bigger than most spotted hyena population just like most spotted hyena population are bigger than most grey wolf population.

So if you were to take a random Hyena and a random Dire Wolf. Odds are the DW is bigger.
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Gonna have to go with the larger dire wolf here. Can't really see much that the hyena has going for it tbh.
Edited by Vivyx, Apr 15 2017, 08:19 AM.
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hyena are tougher than dire wolf and are known to survive lion attacks, hyena is overall stronger than dire wolf even if dire wolf is bigger.
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Wolves have been kicked in the head by bison and survived. Hyenas aren't made of titanium, they're durable but its not like the wolf can't kill it.

I would say the hyena beats the grey wolf, but loses to the dire wolf.
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animalkingdom
Jul 16 2016, 01:12 AM
hyena are tougher than dire wolf and are known to survive lion attacks, hyena is overall stronger than dire wolf even if dire wolf is bigger.
As Carcharodon has said already, grey wolves have survived kicks from bison and moose, broken bones, falling off of cliffs and I think a broken skull. Even dogs have had good durability feats as well, surviving being rammed into the bumper of a car, walking a mile with a fractured skull and torn flesh, swimming in shark infested waters, fights with alligators, being shot multiple times, being stabbed, etc.

Yet you wouldn't think of dogs as particularly durable in a fight, would you?

Durability is irrelevant here as it is perfectly possible that the dire wolf can kill the spotted hyena.
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Jan 29 2016, 08:22 AM
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Jul 31 2014, 04:38 AM
The bite force issue is being overrated people.. If both animals have sufficient jaw strength to deliver a killing bite then it doesn't matter which one can bite harder. I'm more than certain that this is the case here.
This post needs to be stickied to the forums board.
When people bring up the durability argument. I refer them to this.
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Myself being not particularly well versed i extinct animals and too lazy to look it up, what are the weight estimates for the dire wolf?
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