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Dire Wolf v Spotted Hyena
Topic Started: Jun 17 2012, 05:58 PM (37,535 Views)
Taipan
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Dire Wolf - Canis dirus
The Dire wolf (Canis dirus) is an extinct carnivorous mammal of the genus Canis, and was most common in North America and South America from the Irvingtonian stage to the Rancholabrean stage of the Pleistocene epoch living 1.80 Ma – 10,000 years ago, existing for approximately 1.79 million years. lthough it was closely related to the Gray Wolf and other sister species, Canis dirus was not the direct ancestor of any species known today. Unlike the Gray Wolf, which is of Eurasian origin, the Dire Wolf evolved on the North American continent, along with the Coyote. The Dire Wolf co-existed with the Gray Wolf in North America for about 100,000 years. The dire wolf was about the same size as the largest modern gray wolves (Canis lupus), which are the Yukon wolf and the northwestern wolf. C. d. guildayi weighed on average 60 kilograms (132 lb) and C. d. dirus was on average 68 kg (150 lb). Despite superficial similarities to the Gray Wolf, there were significant differences between the two species. The legs of the Dire Wolf were proportionally shorter and sturdier than those of the Gray Wolf, and its brain case was smaller than that of a similarly sized gray wolf. The Dire Wolf's teeth were similar to the Gray Wolf's, only slightly larger, pointing to a hypercarnivorous to mesocarnivorous activity. Paleontologist R.M. Nowak states the dietary characteristics are primarily carnivorous as well as partially omnivorous.

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Spotted Hyena - Crocuta crocuta
The spotted hyena (Crocuta crocuta), also known as the laughing hyena or tiger wolf, is a species of hyena native to Sub-Saharan Africa. It is listed as Least Concern by the IUCN on account of its widespread range and large numbers estimated at 10,000 individuals. The spotted hyena is the largest extant member of the Hyaenidae.[43] Adults measure 95.0—165.8 cm in body length, and have a shoulder height of 70.0-91.5 cm. Adult male spotted hyenas in the Serengeti weigh 40.5—55.0 kg (89—121 lb), while females weigh 44.5—63.9 kg (98—141 lb). Spotted hyenas in Zambia tend to be heavier, with males weighing on average 67.6 kg (149 lb), and females 69.2 kg (153 lb). Exceptionally large weights of 81.7 kg (180 lb) and 86 kg (190 lb) are known. It has been estimated that adult members of the now extinct Eurasian populations weighed 102 kg (225 lbs).

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How about Spotted hyena vs Dire wolf?


Edited by Taipan, Oct 15 2017, 05:22 PM.
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DinosaurMichael
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Wild Dog
Jun 18 2012, 02:11 AM
k9boy
Jun 17 2012, 08:10 PM
Could a dire wolf survive being choked by leopards and lions?
Heck no! Hyena takes this due to its extreme durability and pain tolerance.
Agreed. That's why I vote for the Hyena as well.
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Neofelis
Jun 18 2012, 01:22 AM
I support the Dire wolf in this one too. We can't prove the Dire wolf's durability but Grey wolves survive kicks from Bison and Elk so I don't know a about Dire Wolves.
Still a few kicks can't really compare to a full out lion attack. Especially if the elk is running then it can't apply the kick at full force because its legs are preoccupied and it could trip up. While in a lion attack the lion is very much focused on killing not escaping so.
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You guys are exaggerating the durability of the hyena. They are tough, no doubt but not as unstoppable as your making them out to be.

Most of the time, a lion will have no trouble killing one.
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Elephantus
Jun 18 2012, 02:26 AM
You guys are exaggerating the durability of the hyena. They are tough, no doubt but not as unstoppable as your making them out to be.

Most of the time, a lion will have no trouble killing one.
Then how do you explain those accounts of Hyenas surviving being bitten in the neck by lions?
Edited by DinosaurMichael, Jun 18 2012, 05:49 AM.
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Jun 17 2012, 08:02 PM
The Dire Wolf was more muscular than Grey Wolves, and it had a stronger bite. It fought with Deadly Predators (3 Short Faced Bear species - Brown Bears - Smilodon - Homotherium - Xenosmilus - American Lions ...........)
But did it really "fight them" or did it just get in minor scuffles that resulted in the pack chasing off the bear from their kill and not a single animal really getting hurt?
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werewolf2012
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This one looks like it can go either way. Both have very powerful jaws and could probably kill each other with one well placed bite.
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Elephantus
Jun 18 2012, 02:26 AM
You guys are exaggerating the durability of the hyena. They are tough, no doubt but not as unstoppable as your making them out to be.

Most of the time, a lion will have no trouble killing one.
True, but hyenas can still take alot more punishment then wolves.
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Jun 18 2012, 07:40 AM
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Jun 18 2012, 02:26 AM
You guys are exaggerating the durability of the hyena. They are tough, no doubt but not as unstoppable as your making them out to be.

Most of the time, a lion will have no trouble killing one.
True, but hyenas can still take alot more punishment then wolves.
But this is a DIRE wolf...

Bigger and proportionately more robust then today's wolves.
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k9boy
Jun 17 2012, 08:10 PM
Could a dire wolf survive being choked by leopards and lions?
no enough difference in the power between leopard and dire wolf at average same or leopard wins 6/10
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Yeah but still not as tough as a hyena. A hyena is a tough match for a leopard, and a dire wolf vs leopard would be a complete mistmatch.
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k9boy
Jun 18 2012, 07:50 AM
Yeah but still not as tough as a hyena. A hyena is a tough match for a leopard, and a dire wolf vs leopard would be a complete mistmatch.
Who says it would be a mismatch?
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Both are very evenly matched. Hyenas are highly resistant. Perhaps hyena has a bite a little stronger than the wolf. I vote hyena.
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Elephantus
Jun 18 2012, 07:49 AM
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Jun 18 2012, 07:40 AM
Elephantus
Jun 18 2012, 02:26 AM
You guys are exaggerating the durability of the hyena. They are tough, no doubt but not as unstoppable as your making them out to be.

Most of the time, a lion will have no trouble killing one.
True, but hyenas can still take alot more punishment then wolves.
But this is a DIRE wolf...

Bigger and proportionately more robust then today's wolves.
The differences aren't that drastic. Some of the largest female hyenas would be too much for the largest modern greys.

I'd say the fight could go either way though.
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Megafelis Fatalis
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Jun 18 2012, 04:35 AM
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Jun 17 2012, 08:02 PM
The Dire Wolf was more muscular than Grey Wolves, and it had a stronger bite. It fought with Deadly Predators (3 Short Faced Bear species - Brown Bears - Smilodon - Homotherium - Xenosmilus - American Lions ...........)
But did it really "fight them" or did it just get in minor scuffles that resulted in the pack chasing off the bear from their kill and not a single animal really getting hurt?
IMO, Yes
Dire Wolves killed Giant Bisons that weigh more than 1 ton, and it wasn't easy to do that.
I don't think that they will retreat when a Giant Bear, Saber Toothed Cat or an American Lion comes to steal their Kill.
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Jun 18 2012, 07:53 AM
k9boy
Jun 18 2012, 07:50 AM
Yeah but still not as tough as a hyena. A hyena is a tough match for a leopard, and a dire wolf vs leopard would be a complete mistmatch.
Who says it would be a mismatch?
Pretty much anyone who has any sense.
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