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Dire Wolf v Spotted Hyena
Topic Started: Jun 17 2012, 05:58 PM (37,530 Views)
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Dire Wolf - Canis dirus
The Dire wolf (Canis dirus) is an extinct carnivorous mammal of the genus Canis, and was most common in North America and South America from the Irvingtonian stage to the Rancholabrean stage of the Pleistocene epoch living 1.80 Ma – 10,000 years ago, existing for approximately 1.79 million years. lthough it was closely related to the Gray Wolf and other sister species, Canis dirus was not the direct ancestor of any species known today. Unlike the Gray Wolf, which is of Eurasian origin, the Dire Wolf evolved on the North American continent, along with the Coyote. The Dire Wolf co-existed with the Gray Wolf in North America for about 100,000 years. The dire wolf was about the same size as the largest modern gray wolves (Canis lupus), which are the Yukon wolf and the northwestern wolf. C. d. guildayi weighed on average 60 kilograms (132 lb) and C. d. dirus was on average 68 kg (150 lb). Despite superficial similarities to the Gray Wolf, there were significant differences between the two species. The legs of the Dire Wolf were proportionally shorter and sturdier than those of the Gray Wolf, and its brain case was smaller than that of a similarly sized gray wolf. The Dire Wolf's teeth were similar to the Gray Wolf's, only slightly larger, pointing to a hypercarnivorous to mesocarnivorous activity. Paleontologist R.M. Nowak states the dietary characteristics are primarily carnivorous as well as partially omnivorous.

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Spotted Hyena - Crocuta crocuta
The spotted hyena (Crocuta crocuta), also known as the laughing hyena or tiger wolf, is a species of hyena native to Sub-Saharan Africa. It is listed as Least Concern by the IUCN on account of its widespread range and large numbers estimated at 10,000 individuals. The spotted hyena is the largest extant member of the Hyaenidae.[43] Adults measure 95.0—165.8 cm in body length, and have a shoulder height of 70.0-91.5 cm. Adult male spotted hyenas in the Serengeti weigh 40.5—55.0 kg (89—121 lb), while females weigh 44.5—63.9 kg (98—141 lb). Spotted hyenas in Zambia tend to be heavier, with males weighing on average 67.6 kg (149 lb), and females 69.2 kg (153 lb). Exceptionally large weights of 81.7 kg (180 lb) and 86 kg (190 lb) are known. It has been estimated that adult members of the now extinct Eurasian populations weighed 102 kg (225 lbs).

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How about Spotted hyena vs Dire wolf?


Edited by Taipan, Oct 15 2017, 05:22 PM.
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Aug 4 2012, 07:40 PM
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Aug 4 2012, 07:36 PM
I havn't seen one. But there is a case of 2 hyenas fighting, and one of them is so badly injured you could see its skull in the photos.
I would like to see that,
same here post please
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Jun 18 2012, 06:23 PM
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Jun 18 2012, 04:35 AM
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Jun 17 2012, 08:02 PM
The Dire Wolf was more muscular than Grey Wolves, and it had a stronger bite. It fought with Deadly Predators (3 Short Faced Bear species - Brown Bears - Smilodon - Homotherium - Xenosmilus - American Lions ...........)
But did it really "fight them" or did it just get in minor scuffles that resulted in the pack chasing off the bear from their kill and not a single animal really getting hurt?
IMO, Yes
Dire Wolves killed Giant Bisons that weigh more than 1 ton, and it wasn't easy to do that.
I don't think that they will retreat when a Giant Bear, Saber Toothed Cat or an American Lion comes to steal their Kill.
I doubt it, simply because full out fights almost never break out when similar situations happen with modern predators. you thinking this is only because you like to think this wolf is a badass. What the wolf brought down has nothing to do with how willing they were to defend there kill. Cougars bring down elk much larger than themselves but if a bear shows up it looses its lunch.

as for the match, both animals have powerful bites and similar weights so i personally believe that the hyenas durability and pain tolerance will give it a slight edge.
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No, the wolf is bigger and about the same bite force.
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not a grey wolf we talking bout a dire wolf hyena would try but not succeed !!
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Hyenas are way more aggressive
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Now people think a hyena has a durability and bite advantage over a dire wolf? Wow, just wow.
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Oct 29 2012, 02:57 AM
Hyenas are way more aggressive
Dire wolves are extinct, how the hell would you know which is more aggressive?
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Oct 29 2012, 02:57 AM
Hyenas are way more aggressive
Dire wolves are extinct, how the hell would you know which is more aggressive?
what ever.
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okay hyena might get luck by biting it
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Same can be said for the wolf.
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Feb 12 2013, 05:55 AM
Spotted Hyena wins IMO. Durability, possible aggression and pain tolerance.
I'm sorry but this is straight BS. Wolves today are more aggressive than hyena the bigger than spotted hyena dire wolf would slso have the higher pain tolerance due to its extremely heavyset build. Durability is the same as psin tolerance.
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The Painful Realities of Hyena Sex

By Bjorn Carey, LiveScience Staff Writer
posted: 26 April 2006 01:00 pm ET

When a mother does her best, she expects a well-behaved child. But for top-dog hyena moms, a hell-raiser is preferred.

Alpha females give a hormone boost to their developing cubs, making them more aggressive when fighting for food and increasing their chances of survival, according to a study in the April 27 issue of the journal Nature.

The extra hormones also inspire young males to mount females early and often, giving them a better shot at performing their tricky mating dance correctly down the road.

You won't believe how hard the act is, and why.

Hormone surge

Unlike most mammalian societies, female spotted hyenas run the show and are significantly more muscular and aggressive than males. After studying hyenas in Kenya for nearly two decades, researchers discovered that in the final stages of pregnancy, high-ranking females provide their developing offspring with higher levels of androgen-a male sex hormone associated with aggression-than lower-ranking mothers provide to their developing young
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A hyena lives in a social group known as a "clan" these clans are composed of a dominant female, followed by her cubs, and the second most dominant female, followed by her cubs and so on. Although hyenas are scavengers, they also do a lot of hunting and are more kleptoparasetic then carrion eaters. Hyenas are also thought to be amazingly intelligent and they have at least eleven vocal sounds that they make, although there can be up to thirteen (still debatable). A hyena can hide meat in water for days before returning to the same spot to eat it, and memorize the indivisual identification of eighty other clan members ! There jaws are also thought to be the most powerful amongst mammalian carnivores, a hyena can bite threw a cape buffalos thigh bone as if it was a knife cutting threw butter. Females are larger then males because of there increased testosterone level, it reaches so high that females evolved there genetalia being closer to that of males (althought there chromosomes still in fact do read (x,x)) which made much more aggressive, and ultimatley gave the females more masculine features. Hyenas are also highly territorial and will kill other hyenas outside of there clan. Despite modern legend, hyenas are very aggressiev and 25 % of the cubs in a hyena litter are killed by there siblings for battles over dominance. A hyena has stomache acid with a ph of nearly 1 and can melt down pieces of pots and pans. A hyena has 34 bulky, and resistant teeth. When a hyena whoops, data collected shows that each hyena has its own indivisual whoop and a females whoop is often given more attention to then a males. Hyenas can gallop at speeds of 25-31 mph, and can run and reach a top of 37 mph. Hyenas trot at a speed of 6 mph.


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In Etosha, 71% of hyena mortality was due to lions; four cubs and one adult female hyena were killed by male lions during a 1-year study. Hyenas have evolved adaptations against lions and initiate aggressive interactions with lions without the immediate availability of food, which is termed mobbing behaviour.


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Aggression is a way of life for female spotted hyenas. "Rank is inherited from mothers, and higher-ranking females teach youngsters what their rank is through aggression," says Frank


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Testosterone's effect on female fetuses has been well-documented in laboratory studies. Prenatal exposure to testosterone in female rats, dogs, and monkeys causes male-like genitals as well as increased body size, aggression, and dominance--in short, the suite of characteristics found in female spotted hyenas.


http://carnivoraforum.com/topic/9328044/1/?x=25
Edited by Vita, Feb 12 2013, 06:17 AM.
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Feb 12 2013, 05:59 AM
Durability is the same as psin tolerance.
It isn't.
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It basically is.
Vita i'd reply to that but as of now I'm not in the mood. I'll do it some other time.
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