Red Fox v Fisher

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Who wins?
Red Fox	10 (62.5%)
Fisher	6 (37.5%)
Total Votes: 16

Red Fox v Fisher
Topic Started: Jun 20 2012, 06:07 PM (645 Views)
Taipan	Jun 20 2012, 06:07 PM Post #1
Administrator Posts: 7,459 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Feb 25, 2011	Red Fox - Vulpes vulpes The red fox (Vulpes vulpes) is the largest of the true foxes, as well as being the most geographically spread member of the Carnivora, being distributed across the entire northern hemisphere from the Arctic Circle to North Africa, Central America and the steppes of Asia. Its range has increased alongside human expansion, having been introduced to Australia, where it is considered harmful to native mammal and bird populations. Red foxes have elongated bodies and relatively short limbs. The tail, which is longer than half the body length (70% of head and body length), is long, fluffy and reaches the ground when in a standing position. Red foxes are the largest species of the genus Vulpes. However, relative to dimensions, red foxes are much lighter than similarly sized dogs of the Canis genus. Their limb bones, for example, weigh 30% less per unit area of bone than expected for similarly sized dogs. They display significant individual, sexual, age and geographical variation in size. On average, adults measure 35–50 cm (14–20 in) high at the shoulder and 45 to 90 cm (18 to 35 in) in body length with tails measuring 30 to 63 in (760 to 1,600 mm). The ears measure 7.7–12.5 cm (3–5 in) and the hind feet 12–18.5 cm (5–7 in). They weigh 2.2 to 14 kg (4.9 to 31 lb), with vixens typically weighing 15–20% less than males. Fisher - Martes pennanti Males fishers are, on average, larger than females, with a body length of 900 to 1200 mm and a body weight of 3500 to 5000 grams. Females range from 750 to 950 mm in length and 2000 to 2500 grams in weight. Tail length of males is between 370 and 410 mm and tail length of females is between 310 and 360 mm. Their coats range from medium to dark brown, with gold to silver hoariness on their head and shoulders, and with black legs and tail. They may also have a cream chest patch of variable size and shape. Fur color and pattern varies among individuals, sexes and seasons. Fishers have five toes on their feet, and their claws are retractable. Males and females are similar in appearance but the males are larger in size. Males are between 90 to 120 centimetres (35–47 in) in length and weigh between 3.5 to 5 kilograms (8–11 lb). Females measure 75 to 95 centimetres (30–37 in) and weigh between 2 to 2.5 kilograms (4–6 lb). The largest ever male fisher recorded weighed 9 kg (20 lb). ________________________________________________________________________________ Werewolf2012 Red fox vs Fisher



k9boy	Jun 20 2012, 06:10 PM Post #2
Posts: 2,608 Group: Members Member #254 Joined: Mar 26, 2012	The foxes around my area would kill a fisher, but american reds would lose.



werewolf2012	Jun 21 2012, 12:55 AM Post #3
Posts: 120 Group: Members Member #278 Joined: Apr 6, 2012	The red fox takes this fight. As tough as a fisher might be, it simply doesnt have the size to take down the fox with any regularity.



Rashido	Jun 21 2012, 06:03 AM Post #4
Posts: 1,000 Group: Members Member #57 Joined: Jan 12, 2012	A 25-30 lbs British fox would beat down the fisher in seconds, but against the smaller American fox the fisher wins. I saw a live fisher recently, and they are very lightweight for their dimensions. Edited by Rashido, Jun 21 2012, 06:03 AM.
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ManEater	Jun 21 2012, 06:41 AM Post #5
Posts: 528 Group: Members Member #113 Joined: Jan 18, 2012	I you take the max size of fox , take also the max size of fisher , and i doubt a fox of 14 kg will kill a 9kg fisher .



k9boy	Jun 21 2012, 06:53 AM Post #6
Posts: 2,608 Group: Members Member #254 Joined: Mar 26, 2012	Yes it could, they have killed bigger things.



ManEater	Jun 21 2012, 06:56 AM Post #7
Posts: 528 Group: Members Member #113 Joined: Jan 18, 2012	Yes , but a fisher is stronger than a lot of bigger thing .(in a moderation way of course)



k9boy	Jun 21 2012, 07:30 AM Post #8
Posts: 2,608 Group: Members Member #254 Joined: Mar 26, 2012	I'm not so sure, Have you seen the clip where the fisher failed to kill that grey fox? After the fisher left it the fox got up, apparently unharmed. A british red fox would have killed that grey within seconds. Here is an impressive british fox.



ManEater	Jun 21 2012, 06:48 PM Post #9
Posts: 528 Group: Members Member #113 Joined: Jan 18, 2012	Fisher can be big too :



JaM	Jun 21 2012, 08:23 PM Post #10
Posts: 392 Group: Members Member #240 Joined: Mar 15, 2012	Those fishers look huge, no doubt - but I think it's at last partially because of the perspective in the pictures - the typical "angler's perspective". They're probably very big, but the pictures exaggerate their size a little.



k9boy	Jun 21 2012, 08:31 PM Post #11
Posts: 2,608 Group: Members Member #254 Joined: Mar 26, 2012	Yeah, In the middle one the guy is clearly holding it closer to the camera to make it look bigger.



Populator	Dec 29 2012, 05:00 AM Post #12
Posts: 3,077 Group: Members Member #877 Joined: Dec 2, 2012	k9boy Jun 20 2012, 06:10 PM The foxes around my area would kill a fisher, but american reds would lose. You live in UK? Me too! Country partners! Anyway, I do agree the fox would win if english but an american would lose.
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poison	Dec 29 2012, 09:20 AM Post #13
Posts: 1,339 Group: Members Member #241 Joined: Mar 16, 2012	wow another stupid thread this is predator prey fishers eat foxes you guys are stupid its like saying what is stronger a coyote or a fox? a wolf or a coyote? the fisher out ranks the fox as a predator Edited by poison, Dec 29 2012, 09:22 AM.
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Black Ice	Dec 29 2012, 09:23 AM Post #14
Posts: 9,386 Group: Members Member #422 Joined: Jul 4, 2012	k9boy Jun 21 2012, 07:30 AM I'm not so sure, Have you seen the clip where the fisher failed to kill that grey fox? After the fisher left it the fox got up, apparently unharmed. A british red fox would have killed that grey within seconds. Here is an impressive british fox. Holy shi....... Anyways I agree with k9boy a british fox would throttle this cat.
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Wild	Dec 29 2012, 09:33 AM Post #15
Native Wildlife and Survival Skills enthusiast Posts: 4,120 Group: Members Member #291 Joined: Apr 16, 2012	I'm going with k9boy on this one, he's had experiences with foxes and observed firsthand and knows just how big, tenacious, and surprisingly aggressive/powerful they can be not to mention that one British fox, that was just........just............dang



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