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If Certosaurus were alive in North America today?
Topic Started: Jul 10 2012, 09:41 PM (4,249 Views)
DinosaurMichael
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So I was just wondering, but let's just say if Ceratosaurus were alive today in North America. How well do you see Ceratosaurus being able to survive.

In my opinion it would survive. It be the top predator in North America. It would probably dominate Wolf Packs and Bears over kills. It would also prey on Deer and other herbivores. That's how I see it happening. Then again maybe Ceratosaurus would only survive in the southern United States and Mexico, where there's no snow in the Winter, but would still be enough animals for it to prey on.

What about you guys? What do yout hink. Would it survive or not and if so or not. How would it or why wouldn't it.

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Edited by DinosaurMichael, Jul 11 2012, 03:21 AM.
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Imagine 10 Wolves fought a Ceratosaurus. Then, 1 Allosaurus fought a Ceratosaurus. Who would do better? The Wolves. They are fast enough to move around the Ceratosaurus and can make enough damage to kill it. They are great team hunters too. A Ceratosaurus just won't risk it IMO.
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Jul 11 2012, 11:59 AM
Imagine 10 Wolves fought a Ceratosaurus. Then, 1 Allosaurus fought a Ceratosaurus. Who would do better? The Wolves. They are fast enough to move around the Ceratosaurus and can make enough damage to kill it. They are great team hunters too. A Ceratosaurus just won't risk it IMO.
I doubt it. Wolves can't grapple and all they got are jaws. Not to mention this is a huge carnivore. I think no matter how many wolves there are. Ceratosaurus would dominate them no matter what. Wolves would probably flee at the sight of the Theropod. Ceratosaurus ain't no Moose after all. It's a carnivore. Plus I find it likely Wolf Packs would avoid Ceratosaurus.
Edited by DinosaurMichael, Jul 11 2012, 12:02 PM.
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Ceratosaurus was outcompeted to extinction.but those were dinosaurs tho.mammals might fare worse off against a dino like ceratosauru.i say it would survive as elephants and other large animals can find ample food.should be no biggy for cerato
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Jul 11 2012, 12:02 PM
Ceratosaurus was outcompeted to extinction.but those were dinosaurs tho.mammals might fare worse off against a dino like ceratosauru.i say it would survive as elephants and other large animals can find ample food.should be no biggy for cerato
How do we know? It could of been something else like maybe Ceratosaurus evolved.
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Jul 11 2012, 12:00 PM
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Imagine 10 Wolves fought a Ceratosaurus. Then, 1 Allosaurus fought a Ceratosaurus. Who would do better? The Wolves. They are fast enough to move around the Ceratosaurus and can make enough damage to kill it. They are great team hunters too. A Ceratosaurus just won't risk it IMO.
I doubt it. Wolves can't grapple and all they got are jaws. Not to mention this is a huge carnivore. I think no matter how many wolves there are. Ceratosaurus would dominate them no matter what. Wolves would probably flee at the sight of the Theropod. Ceratosaurus ain't no Moose after all. It's a carnivore. Plus I find it likely Wolf Packs would avoid Ceratosaurus.
If 5 Velociraptors came running at you, would you fight them? No, because they are fast and deadly. Same with the Wolf. They are fast, deadly and intelligent animals.
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Jul 11 2012, 11:59 AM
Imagine 10 Wolves fought a Ceratosaurus. Then, 1 Allosaurus fought a Ceratosaurus. Who would do better? The Wolves. They are fast enough to move around the Ceratosaurus and can make enough damage to kill it. They are great team hunters too. A Ceratosaurus just won't risk it IMO.
I doubt it. Wolves can't grapple and all they got are jaws. Not to mention this is a huge carnivore. I think no matter how many wolves there are. Ceratosaurus would dominate them no matter what. Wolves would probably flee at the sight of the Theropod. Ceratosaurus ain't no Moose after all. It's a carnivore. Plus I find it likely Wolf Packs would avoid Ceratosaurus.
If 5 Velociraptors came running at you, would you fight them? No, because they are fast and deadly. Same with the Wolf. They are fast, deadly and intelligent animals.
Well like I said. i think Ceratosaurus would be too much due to it's huge size. Anyway I accept your opinion. So I'll stop now.

And no i wouldn't fight them because I ain't an apex predator. If I was. I would then. And did I forget to mention that Dingoes in even packs no matter how many Dingoes their are in it can't even take on a single Perentie as it would be too much and it is smaller than them.
Edited by DinosaurMichael, Jul 11 2012, 09:31 PM.
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I dont see any evidence cerato evolved.many sources say it was out competed by allo and the prey items were getting to fast an well armed.cerato ruled in its time.but theres always a bigger or more efficient killer to steal the last ones throne
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Jul 11 2012, 12:16 PM
I dont see any evidence cerato evolved.many sources say it was out competed by allo and the prey items were getting to fast an well armed.cerato ruled in its time.but theres always a bigger or more efficient killer to steal the last ones throne
well then maybe outcompeting was one of them. Others could of been changes in the environment, but who knows.
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Yea your right but with the major shrinkage of size in predators maybe cerato could survive.just be a bully like bears are with wolves or lions with hyenas wolves with coyotes etc
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Jul 11 2012, 12:19 PM
Yea your right but with the major shrinkage of size in predators maybe cerato could survive.just be a bully like bears are with wolves or lions with hyenas wolves with coyotes etc
I agree with that.
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Jul 11 2012, 11:51 AM
Well, Wolves live in large packs.
Show me evidence that Allosaur were solitary animals!
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This is ridiculous. No offense DinoMike, but how can you say "oh we'll I still think it would regardless" when every single shred of evidence is against it surviving! Ursus is right, it would be simply incapable of surviving! It would not be able to catch prey and even if it could there wouldn't be enough. In addition, humans would capture or kill EVERY SINGLE ONE!!! The Jesus freaks would have a field day killing those "ungodly" creatures! The only places it would be able to survive (assuming it could catch modern prey, which it couldn't) would be on open land in the south, where the hillbillies and shotgun toting god-fearing ranchers would be so royally pissed off at the scientists who brought them back the rest of dogmatic America would turn into a complete theocracy (which it might do if Romney gets elected) and we'd have our very own Spanish Inquisition! The implications of such a break from conceivable reality would be enormous, and not just for the scientific realm.
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That made my head hurt.
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Jul 12 2012, 05:29 AM
This is ridiculous. No offense DinoMike, but how can you say "oh we'll I still think it would regardless" when every single shred of evidence is against it surviving! Ursus is right, it would be simply incapable of surviving! It would not be able to catch prey and even if it could there wouldn't be enough. In addition, humans would capture or kill EVERY SINGLE ONE!!! The Jesus freaks would have a field day killing those "ungodly" creatures! The only places it would be able to survive (assuming it could catch modern prey, which it couldn't) would be on open land in the south, where the hillbillies and shotgun toting god-fearing ranchers would be so royally pissed off at the scientists who brought them back the rest of dogmatic America would turn into a complete theocracy (which it might do if Romney gets elected) and we'd have our very own Spanish Inquisition! The implications of such a break from conceivable reality would be enormous, and not just for the scientific realm.
Well now that I think about it. You're pretty much right. I just thought that if it wasn't anywhere there were fungi, viruses and other stuff.
Edited by DinosaurMichael, Jul 12 2012, 10:04 AM.
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Do you suppose this thread should be locked? If so one of the Admins can go ahead and do it.
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