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Can Livyatan melvillei kill a Blue Whale?
Topic Started: Jul 21 2012, 09:34 PM (3,157 Views)
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Well seeing that this Whale preyed on other Whales. Do any of you guys think it's possible Livyatan melvilli could of been capable of killing a Blue Whale? Give out your answers or opinions.
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I think so. It was large enough/strong enough.
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yes, baleen whales are total defenseless whimps
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lol . And Sauropods aren't?
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Jul 21 2012, 10:38 PM
lol . And Sauropods aren't?
sauropods have tail whips, foot claws, necks swinging, stomping and kicking
baleen whales only has speed to flee
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Baleen Whales have Size, Power and plain Intimidation. I don't know why I still bother to reply to you. You obviously don't like anything but Sauropods.
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brolyeuphyfusion
Jul 21 2012, 10:37 PM
yes, baleen whales are total defenseless whimps
You can be quite annoying when stating how sauropods were strong fighters (they were), and then calling baleen whales defenseless wimps. No offence, but you, out off all posters, should know better.


I think L. mellvillei could kill a blue whale if it can catch it. It is more of a struggle than with Megalodon tough. I imagine it ramming the skull of the whale with all it´s speed to make it unconscious, ad then crushing it. As already pointed out by some members, Livyatan was not as efficient at killing large whales as megalodon, due to the lack of the possibility of ambushing it, biting it once and letting it bleed to death. But as orcas can reportedly cause fatal injury to a 18m Blue whale, i don´t see a reason for livyatan not to be able to do the same to an adult one if it had to.It would be very diffucult tough.
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Good analysis Theropod. I forgot all about the rams!
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Thanks!
I think ramming can be quite effective, especially when you have a strong, pointed skull like Livyatan, and when your opponent is so large
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theropod
Jul 21 2012, 10:48 PM
Thanks!
I think ramming can be quite effective, especially when you ahve a strong, pointed skull like Livyatan, and when your opponent is so large
Agreed. A good ram followed by a big bite is fatal.
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brolyeuphyfusion
Jul 21 2012, 10:37 PM
yes, baleen whales are total defenseless whimps
No, my friend. Baleen whales are not defenceless whimps.

Here is an excellent reading: http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/science/species-especes/cetacean-cetaces/CRP-publications/Ford&Reeves_2008.pdf

And here is an interesting event: http://digitaljournal.com/article/324348
Edited by Meg_Man, Jul 22 2012, 03:03 AM.
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theropod
Jul 21 2012, 10:43 PM
brolyeuphyfusion
Jul 21 2012, 10:37 PM
yes, baleen whales are total defenseless whimps
You can be quite annoying when stating how sauropods were strong fighters (they were), and then calling baleen whales defenseless wimps. No offence, but you, out off all posters, should know better.


I think L. mellvillei could kill a blue whale if it can catch it. It is more of a struggle than with Megalodon tough. I imagine it ramming the skull of the whale with all it´s speed to make it unconscious, ad then crushing it. As already pointed out by some members, Livyatan was not as efficient at killing large whales as megalodon, due to the lack of the possibility of ambushing it, biting it once and letting it bleed to death. But as orcas can reportedly cause fatal injury to a 18m Blue whale, i don´t see a reason for livyatan not to be able to do the same to an adult one if it had to.It would be very diffucult tough.
I don't think that an adult blue whale can be rendered unconscious with ramming strategy; not with a single ram at least. But ramming can be done to injure the animal.

And here are some details about that event involving 18m individual: http://www.seaworld.org/infobooks/killerwhale/dietkw.html
Edited by Meg_Man, Jul 22 2012, 03:04 AM.
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Jul 22 2012, 02:53 AM
brolyeuphyfusion
Jul 21 2012, 10:37 PM
yes, baleen whales are total defenseless whimps
No, my friend. Baleen whales are not defenceless whimps.

Here is an excellent reading: http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/science/species-especes/cetacean-cetaces/CRP-publications/Ford&Reeves_2008.pdf

And here is an interesting event: http://digitaljournal.com/article/324348
Thank´s for those links, Meg_man. They are very interesting


The second link is another example of how intelligent and human-like cetaceans can be.
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We can clearly grasp that a sauropod can put up a better fight than its sea counterparts (i.e.,the whales mentioned) but i feel like it would be able to prey on many things in the sea!
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Generally very large animals like whales and sauropods not have much weaponry because are very large. But livyatan has the size and the powerful jaws to attack the whale IMO.
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