Honey Badger v Black Mamba

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Who wins?
Honey Badger	7 (70%)
Black Mamba	3 (30%)
Total Votes: 10

Honey Badger v Black Mamba
Topic Started: Jul 24 2012, 08:51 PM (1,501 Views)
Taipan	Jul 24 2012, 08:51 PM Post #1
Administrator Posts: 7,442 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Feb 25, 2011	Honey Badger - Mellivora capensis The honey badger (Mellivora capensis), also known as the ratel, is a species of mustelid native to Africa, the Middle East and the Indian Subcontinent. Despite its name, the honey badger does not closely resemble other badger species, instead bearing more anatomical similarities to weasels. It is classed as Least Concern by the IUCN due to its extensive range and general environmental adaptations. It is a primarily carnivorous species, and has few natural predators due to its thick skin and ferocious defensive abilities. The honey badger has a fairly long body, but is distinctly thick set and broad across the back. Its skin is remarkably loose, and allows it to turn and twist freely within it. The skin around the neck is 6 millimetres (0.24 in) thick, an adaptation to fighting conspecifics. The head is small and flat, with a short muzzle. The eyes are small, and the ears are little more than ridges on the skin, another possible adaptation to avoiding damage while fighting. The honey badger has short and sturdy legs, with five toes on each foot. The feet are armed with very strong claws, which are short on the hind legs and remarkably long on the forelimbs. It is a partially plantigrade animal whose soles are thickly padded and naked up to the wrists. The tail is short and is covered in long hairs, save for below the base. Adults measure 23 to 28 centimetres (9.1 to 11 in) in shoulder height and 68–75 cm in body length, with females being smaller than males. Males on average weigh 12 kg (up to 16 kilograms) (26 to 35 lb) while females weigh 9.1 kg. Black Mamba - Dendroaspis polylepis The black mamba (Dendroaspis polylepis), also called the common black mamba or black-mouthed mamba, is the longest venomous snake in Africa, averaging around 2.5 to 3.2 m (8.2 to 10 ft) in length, and sometimes growing to lengths of 4.45 m (14.6 ft). It is named for the black colour of the inside of the mouth rather than the colour of its scales which varies from dull yellowish-green to a gun-metal grey. It is the fastest snake in the world, capable of moving at 4.32 to 5.4 metres per second (16–20 km/h, 10–12 mph). It has a reputation for being aggressive and highly venomous and is among the world's most venomous land snakes based on LD50 on mice in a study. ______________________________________________________________________ Dilophosaurus Atrox American badger vs Black mamba May as well make it an all African battle. Edited by Taipan, Jul 24 2012, 08:52 PM.



Black Ice	Jul 24 2012, 08:56 PM Post #2
Posts: 9,386 Group: Members Member #422 Joined: Jul 4, 2012	Are mustelids immune to the mambas? As mabas have 4 types of venom Neurotoxins Cardiotoxins Faciculans Calciceptine
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Sam1	Jul 24 2012, 10:03 PM Post #3
Posts: 403 Group: Members Member #16 Joined: Jan 8, 2012	Uh, this snake is a nightmare. I'd really want Ratel to take it but wouldn't bet my money on it.
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Wild	Jul 25 2012, 03:21 AM Post #4
Native Wildlife and Survival Skills enthusiast Posts: 4,120 Group: Members Member #291 Joined: Apr 16, 2012	I know for sure the honey badger will some how manage to kill the snake (even a mamba's venom doesn't more that fast) I just don't know if it will survive the cardiotoxins (if it gets bit I don't know how fast a black mamba strikes). Edited by Wild, Jul 25 2012, 03:24 AM.



M4A2E4	Jul 25 2012, 05:28 AM Post #5
Posts: 167 Group: Members Member #126 Joined: Jan 21, 2012	AFAIK The mamba strikes faster than cobras, but still not on the same level as the heavy-bodied vipers.



Dark allosaurus	Jul 25 2012, 05:39 AM Post #6
Dinosaur Specialist Posts: 3,616 Group: Members Member #419 Joined: Jul 1, 2012	I'm sure that the Honey Badger would kill the snake but are mustelids immune to a mamba's cardiotoxins? Edited by Dark allosaurus, Jul 25 2012, 05:39 AM.



k9boy	Jul 25 2012, 06:06 AM Post #7
Posts: 2,606 Group: Members Member #254 Joined: Mar 26, 2012	Wasn't there a video of a HB killing a black mamba?



Black Ice	Jul 25 2012, 06:29 AM Post #8
Posts: 9,386 Group: Members Member #422 Joined: Jul 4, 2012	No it was a cobra Mambas have some of yhe fastest acting venom among snakes
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Wild	Jul 25 2012, 07:54 AM Post #9
Native Wildlife and Survival Skills enthusiast Posts: 4,120 Group: Members Member #291 Joined: Apr 16, 2012	Starkiller Jul 25 2012, 06:29 AM No it was a cobra Mambas have some of yhe fastest acting venom among snakes Really? I thought rattlesnakes and other vipers beat them in speed.



Wild	Jul 25 2012, 07:56 AM Post #10
Native Wildlife and Survival Skills enthusiast Posts: 4,120 Group: Members Member #291 Joined: Apr 16, 2012	k9boy Jul 25 2012, 06:06 AM Wasn't there a video of a HB killing a black mamba? No I believe there's a video of a mongoose killing a black mamba. The only videos of HB killing snakes are one where one goes against a death adder and another one where it wrestles down what I believe was an Egyptian cobra.



Black Ice	Jul 25 2012, 08:04 AM Post #11
Posts: 9,386 Group: Members Member #422 Joined: Jul 4, 2012	No rattlers and vipers strike slightly faster than mambas But mambas venom activates faster when injected.sometimes under seconds if their prey is doing vigorous movement
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linnaeus1758	Jul 25 2012, 09:20 AM Post #12
Posts: 1,363 Group: Members Member #371 Joined: Jun 10, 2012	Black mamba has tiny fangs, and ratel has a thick skin to avoid bee stings. For that i don´t think that mamba can bite ratel easily... http://www.flickriver.com/photos/cowyeow/4879115866/



Black Ice	Jul 25 2012, 09:30 AM Post #13
Posts: 9,386 Group: Members Member #422 Joined: Jul 4, 2012	Yet mambas have punctured tough skin before Those fangs can pierce the ratels skin
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linnaeus1758	Jul 25 2012, 09:42 AM Post #14
Posts: 1,363 Group: Members Member #371 Joined: Jun 10, 2012	I'm not so sure, would have to pierce its fur also. I think that ratel can avoid mamba attacks, and give a good bite to snake, that is very slim...



Black Ice	Jul 25 2012, 09:45 AM Post #15
Posts: 9,386 Group: Members Member #422 Joined: Jul 4, 2012	Its fangs are like hyperdermic needles Its sharp and thin enough to pierce the ratels hide and inject its venom. It acts rather quickly once injected
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