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Felids vs Canids at parity, who's stronger?; Who's stronger and most capable in a fight at parity?
Topic Started: Jul 31 2012, 11:41 AM (44,656 Views)
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feral cats are very scared of adult martens it seems, but euro foxes can kill them
Edited by Ophiophagy, Aug 3 2012, 06:08 AM.
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Aug 3 2012, 06:29 AM
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in a fight a dog would have to be at least twice the size of the cat to kill it
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Aug 3 2012, 06:40 AM
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Aug 3 2012, 06:29 AM
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in a fight a dog would have to be at least twice the size of the cat to kill it
And this is based on what?
Dogs have killed cats that are of the same size as them.
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Aug 3 2012, 05:52 AM
lol a fox is not 10 pounds more than a cat they are the same weight they are just taller a fox is about 10 pounds so is a male feral. What are you smoking k9 boy?


monster foxes only exist in areas where they are apex predators on islands and in europe not here in america or canada they are at the bottom of the food chain almost and pretty much live in fear of being eaten by coyotes. bobcats, owls, fishers, they do not get more heavy than a cat.


the fox that killed your friends cat might have weighed a few pounds more max not 10 pounds lmao many domestic cats are just crappy fighters deal with it.


here foxes and cats live in peace in fear of coyotes. But once in a blue moon a fox might prey on a smaller cat I don't think its common but it can happen with all the fat lazy pathetic cats out there.

a big healthy beastly boar coon that lives near my house will kill a bush dog and rat dog put together hes 3 x the size of a tom cat

a fox is a much more capable predator than a domestic feral for its size.

A fox that can kill an adult marten can kill a cat or a dog the same size as it.I put my life on it. But those are european foxes.
Actually, now that I've looked into it I'd say fox vs cat is a 50/50. Theres no way a cat could kill a fox with those tiny little jaws.
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k9 what was it before? now it is 50/50 what did you think it was before ? in favor of who? cats cant kill a adult fox they just fend themoff easy


unlike with coyotes it is like 1 in every thousand cats has ever fended off a coyote attack
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MIANWALI, Feb 11: Some residents of Jhamat Shumali on Thursday evening killed the leopard that had mauled two persons on Wednesday.

Reports said Adnan and Atta Muhammad were passing through a jungle near Jhamat Shumali village when the leopard attacked and mauled them. They were rescued by nearby inhabitants when they raised an alarm.

Residents along with the Dulewali police and wildlife staff launched a search for the leopard on Wednesday, but they had to abandon it before the nightfall.

On Thursday, they resumed their search and succeeded in tracking and killing the leopard with the help of dogs. However, the leopard killed five dogs in the event.

The body of the leopard was taken to the Dulewali police station where a large number of people came to get a glimpse of the rare beast as the leopard is unknown in this area.


It is believed that the leopard would have descended from the mountains of Sakesar in the Khushab district.

Ghulam Rasool Jhamat said there was no option but to kill the beast as the wildlife personnel were not trained to catch a leopard alive.
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http://dawn.com/2011/02/12/leopard-killed-in-revenge/

This is really a no contest at parity...dogs need a massive weight advantage to stand any chance against a wild felid.

Edited by Panzerdivision, Aug 3 2012, 08:11 AM.
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that is a leopard tho which is the king of cats almost


guard dogs wear spiked collars in india cause of leopards


any man who lives in leopard country and has dogs knows how easy they can kill them and how easy they can kill a man. but we are talking other cats. Leopards are supreme.


People crap bricks around them even with their protection dogs.

Edited by Ophiophagy, Aug 3 2012, 08:13 AM.
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Aug 3 2012, 08:06 AM
k9 what was it before? now it is 50/50 what did you think it was before ? in favor of who? cats cant kill a adult fox they just fend themoff easy


unlike with coyotes it is like 1 in every thousand cats has ever fended off a coyote attack
I thought a cat could use the strangulation move, but tbh domestic cats are not good at killing large animals. I still think a cat has enough strength to beat a fox at parity, but it has to avoid the jaws, which is a problem. So I say 50/50. And In reply to your earlier comment yes foxes in my area usually have 10lbs on the average cat. In america there tiny.
Edited by k9boy, Aug 3 2012, 08:17 AM.
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hare is the biggest animals cats have killed and they find it very very hard to kill hares and often fail. Very few cats can kill hares. The only ones i knew of were the odd rare barn cat.


WIld rabbits are killed a lot though. Which are close to the cats size but not as huge as a hare. or as strong.
Edited by Ophiophagy, Aug 3 2012, 08:16 AM.
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There just not built for it. Something like a 10lb bobcat would easily kill any fox, even if it had a size advantage.
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not if the bobcat is a baby..
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Aug 3 2012, 08:19 AM
There just not built for it. Something like a 10lb bobcat would easily kill any fox, even if it had a size advantage.
I'd favor a red fox over a 10 pound bobcat. Even tho it is not a true fox, a Culpeo fox would just slaughter it.
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Aug 3 2012, 08:22 AM
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Aug 3 2012, 08:19 AM
There just not built for it. Something like a 10lb bobcat would easily kill any fox, even if it had a size advantage.
I'd favor a red fox over a 10 pound bobcat. Even tho it is not a true fox, a Culpeo fox would just slaughter it.
A 30lb culpeo against a 10lb bobcat yeah the culpeo wins easily, But make the bobcat 20lbs and you have a dead culpeo. Bobcats are one of the most robust smaller cats.
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if the bobcat is a baby the fox might win 10 pound bobcat is just a lil baby

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