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Felids vs Canids at parity, who's stronger?; Who's stronger and most capable in a fight at parity?
Topic Started: Jul 31 2012, 11:41 AM (44,654 Views)
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You do realize a bull and terrier will not hesitate or pay any mind to a bobcat's display, don't you? The notion of a canid needing to be two times larger in order to best a bobcat is hilarity.
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felines are stronger
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Aug 3 2012, 12:37 PM
felines are stronger
i doubt they are significantly stronger at parity as lions and tigers are much bigger. they just have more developed and robust limbs to utilize their strength leading to the false conclusion they are because wolves etc dont have the ability to fully use their power in combat
Edited by Black Ice, Aug 3 2012, 12:40 PM.
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Aug 3 2012, 12:37 PM
felines are stronger
The larger cats are, it is pretty equal otherwise.
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Aug 3 2012, 08:52 AM
Bobcats are very tough for their size

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the first bobcat picture involves a dead deer, the cat did not kill it itself.
It was shot and the cat bit onto it, eventually it was shot to and died still biting the deer.
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John was hunting the last day of deer season. A mature doe with 2 button bucks entered a food plot. Suddenly all 3 deer became alarmed; the doe blew and bounded into the middle of the field. John had a clear line of sight at the doe; he started to squeeze the trigger, but then he wondered if it was a big buck back in the woods that was making her nervous.

The deer blew again, ran farther across the plot, stopped again and looked back on full alert. John decided it was probably not a buck that had startled the deer, so he shot the doe. The 2 button bucks ran away and just then a 20-pound bobcat sprinted into the field. It put a death lock on the dead doe’s neck!

John shucked another shell (his last) into the chamber. The bobcat was still locked onto the big meal, and he did not intend to give it up. John put the cat in the crosshairs and squeezed off his last round. The critter did not flinch. Miss?

John sat awhile and then yelled at the cat to see if he was alive—no reaction. He climbed down from his stand and walked up to the two animals with his empty gun. The bobcat was looking right at him, still with a death grip on the doe. The cat was stone cold dead!

John called everyone at camp to come and look and take pictures. They had to load the doe and bobcat together because they could not separate them.


Hounds are not the best breed in combating their prey. Terrier have hunting bobcats successfully, and the animals are of similar sizes.
Edited by Lycaon, Aug 3 2012, 02:30 PM.
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Aug 3 2012, 11:24 AM
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Aug 3 2012, 10:51 AM
A staff could kill a bobcat at parity. They are more robust than any fox at similar weights.
I don't think so. Most Pitbull/Staff supporters think these dogs blindly run into a conflict (cuz they've seen a few dog fighting videos or whatever), but the dog will end up being savagely mauled. Dog vs Dog is pretty different from Dog vs Wild Cat.

Here's a picture of a small Bobcat against a pack of hounds.

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I can do the same thing and post terriers attacking/killing similar sized bobcat(s)
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Aug 3 2012, 12:35 PM
You do realize a bull and terrier will not hesitate or pay any mind to a bobcat's display, don't you? The notion of a canid needing to be two times larger in order to best a bobcat is hilarity.
Strongly agree
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Aug 3 2012, 12:39 PM
Dark allosaurus
Aug 3 2012, 12:37 PM
felines are stronger
i doubt they are significantly stronger at parity as lions and tigers are much bigger. they just have more developed and robust limbs to utilize their strength leading to the false conclusion they are because wolves etc dont have the ability to fully use their power in combat
No. They evolved to utilize their strength in a different manner. But the largest of wild canids (and domestic combat oriented dogs) wouldn't fare too well against cats in their weight class.
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Im referring to how epicyon could grapple yet overtime dogs lost the funcion
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Wow I've always had the notion that in order for a canid to beat a felid it would need a size advantage (tho 2 times the size is definite overkill) now with those terrier accounts my view's really changed.
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I agree a staffy or pitbull would kill a bobcat at parity, but I think a working terrier would lose.
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Lycaon
Aug 3 2012, 02:13 AM
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Aug 2 2012, 11:08 AM
Well foxes kill cats in my neighborhood. I'm sorry but I'm drunk but still. Any cat worth calling a cat will beat a canid at parity. Kills me to say it but it's stupid to deny it.
You are drunk. A terrier will most definitely kill the a cat a parity, happens all the time.
I am certainly going to deny it.
Where does this happen all the time??
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Aug 3 2012, 08:06 AM
k9 what was it before? now it is 50/50 what did you think it was before ? in favor of who? cats cant kill a adult fox they just fend themoff easy


unlike with coyotes it is like 1 in every thousand cats has ever fended off a coyote attack
Why cant a cat kill a fox?
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Aug 3 2012, 02:31 PM
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Aug 3 2012, 11:24 AM
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Aug 3 2012, 10:51 AM
A staff could kill a bobcat at parity. They are more robust than any fox at similar weights.
I don't think so. Most Pitbull/Staff supporters think these dogs blindly run into a conflict (cuz they've seen a few dog fighting videos or whatever), but the dog will end up being savagely mauled. Dog vs Dog is pretty different from Dog vs Wild Cat.

Here's a picture of a small Bobcat against a pack of hounds.

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I can do the same thing and post terriers attacking/killing similar sized bobcat(s)
Glad u said terriers and not terrier, 1 terrier on its own would get twated by a bobcat unless it has a good size advantage.
Edited by FelinePowah, Aug 3 2012, 09:26 PM.
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Aug 3 2012, 09:19 PM
poison
Aug 3 2012, 08:06 AM
k9 what was it before? now it is 50/50 what did you think it was before ? in favor of who? cats cant kill a adult fox they just fend themoff easy


unlike with coyotes it is like 1 in every thousand cats has ever fended off a coyote attack
Why cant a cat kill a fox?
It can overpower one at parity, but its jaws are too small to kill one.
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