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Felids vs Canids at parity, who's stronger?; Who's stronger and most capable in a fight at parity?
Topic Started: Jul 31 2012, 11:41 AM (44,645 Views)
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I have seen wounds on the dogos after the fights. And your evidence is not good I have heard different story's. Yes they are stressed but this well go away with adrenaline. A big puma will defeat a dogo but at equal weights it will be close.
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Don't get me wrong I agree with a lot of your facts.
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If you asked people In Argentina your probably right but these pumas are still dangerous.
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And a true fact only the true denial can't accept is that puma lose too puma.
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I meant dogo.
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Parity dog wins. These captive puma are very dangerous not as in wild standards. But in these pit fights the dogo destroys puma every time with ease. Even in wild I favour dogo at parity.
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Look at it this way. Puma still has claws. Still in good shape because it fights regularly, still has teeth, still has experience from fighting and has enhanced aggressiveness from being tortured and fighting all time. Puma in these pits are still dangerous not as in wild but still very tough.
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So, it seems that you do recognize that these pumas live under torture. But you don't recognize that this life under torture has its physiological effects on the pumas. This is not my opinion, it is a fact, whether you like it or not is irrelevant.

The claim that the pumas get sufficient "training" in these fights is so idiotic and so mistaken that it is not worth replying. The fights that a tortured animal must endure (in front of a human crowd) cannot be called "training" or "fighting" under any circumstance: it is called PUMA BAITING and it proves nothing.

Yes, the dogos "beat" these pumas, but they "beat" poor shadows of a puma. The fact that you don't understand it speaks volumes about your poor ability to understand and think.

You say you have heard a "different story". If it comes from the dudes that organize conduct and support this PUMA BAITING sessions, then what would you expect? But these dudes are (besides criminals because the practice is illegal) a very biased source of information. Only fanboys believe these stories and only idiots take them as good evidence.

I don't care that you think that dogo would beat a puma at parity. It's your opinion. I disagree, but respect your opinion as I respect any opinion. What I find reprehensible and problematic is you insistence (against all evidence) in supporting this opinion with gutter level low quality selective evidence that is based on animal torture. The fact that you don't see anything wrong with this is quite pitiful.

Your replies on this issue are merely the desperate kicks of a drowning man (patadas de ahogado). After all, you have lost this debate, as practically all posters here agree that these PUMA BAITING sessions only prove to what degree a puma has to be debased to allow the dogos to easily "beat" it.
Edited by Gato Gordo, Jun 22 2013, 02:45 PM.
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I never said it was getting trained just said getting fight experience. I do understand it. Yes they beat poor pumas but the pumas are something. I respect your opinion and in fact agree at your opinion. But dogo still wins at parity.
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I'm not desperate only putting what I think. Stop judging me and making rude comments on me please.
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And the funny thing is none of us have real evidence stating how the pumas are treated. But I believe you so I am taking your word.
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I DO NOT SUPPORT ANIMAL FIGHTS.
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Your evidence is no better than mine but I respect it.
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ADMIN - Grandej221 stop double posting. Edit your original post and add your additional comments.
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