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Felids vs Canids at parity, who's stronger?; Who's stronger and most capable in a fight at parity?
Topic Started: Jul 31 2012, 11:41 AM (44,663 Views)
Ophiophagy
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felines are stronger than canines but they will be killed by the weasel family at equal weights, I dont think a cl is the king of its weight a wolverine or badger the same weight will kill it.


and a fishing cat or ocelot are no better than a bobcat I have seen all of them up close side by side it could probably go either way but if a bobcat cant do it i would not put any money on those other cats.


I dont think a coyote would dare mess with a bobcat on its own that was the same weight as it. Coyotes win by their extreme smarts and higher numbers and bigger size. But a bobcat the size of a coyote will be a beast and the coyote would stay away if he was alone.

Edited by Ophiophagy, Jul 31 2012, 10:43 PM.
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Yeah weasels are very strong animals, but they are no canidae, only related with them(Canidea).
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Jul 31 2012, 10:23 PM
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Jul 31 2012, 10:14 PM
im sure dogs have strong necks, but on average feline necks are shorter so are normaly stronger and help them deliver deep Puncturing bites.
Depends completley of the species. A jack russell will have a stronger neck at parity then a similarly sized cat, And a leopard will have a stronger neck then a similarly sized dog/wolf.
Indeed, but thats why i said on average a felines shorter neck would normaly give it greater strength
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Jul 31 2012, 10:39 PM
felines are stronger than canines but they will be killed by the weasel family at equal weights, I dont think a cl is the king of its weight a wolverine or badger the same weight will kill it.
No way, A CL or pitbull would total a badger at equal weights, a wolverine would be slightly harder but it would still lose to both of them.
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Jul 31 2012, 10:42 PM
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Jul 31 2012, 10:23 PM
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Jul 31 2012, 10:14 PM
im sure dogs have strong necks, but on average feline necks are shorter so are normaly stronger and help them deliver deep Puncturing bites.
Depends completley of the species. A jack russell will have a stronger neck at parity then a similarly sized cat, And a leopard will have a stronger neck then a similarly sized dog/wolf.
Indeed, but thats why i said on average a felines shorter neck would normaly give it greater strength
Jack russells have longer necks then cats.
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Jul 31 2012, 10:45 PM
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Badgers get beat by terriers, and name 1 impressive thing a wolverine has ever done.
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Jul 31 2012, 10:39 PM
felines are stronger than canines but they will be killed by the weasel family at equal weights, I dont think a cl is the king of its weight a wolverine or badger the same weight will kill it.
No way, A CL or pitbull would total a badger at equal weights, a wolverine would be slightly harder but it would still lose to both of them.
Naa i think a Wolverine would kill a Pitbull at equal weights.

Dogs are just badly designed for fighting.
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a man wouldnt stop crying in the dog park yesterday cause he had to put down his rotty after it got in a fight with a fisher

he said the fisher use to always run from his dog but one time the dog caught it
Edited by Ophiophagy, Jul 31 2012, 10:48 PM.
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Jul 31 2012, 10:43 PM
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Jul 31 2012, 10:39 PM
felines are stronger than canines but they will be killed by the weasel family at equal weights, I dont think a cl is the king of its weight a wolverine or badger the same weight will kill it.
No way, A CL or pitbull would total a badger at equal weights, a wolverine would be slightly harder but it would still lose to both of them.
Naa i think a Wolverine would kill a Pitbull at equal weights.

Dogs are just badly designed for fighting.
Compared to cats and bears yes, but they are good fighters in there own light. And wolverines are so overrated. Yeah so are pitbulls, but atleast they have earned there reptutation. What have wolverines ever done except for chasing uninterested wolves from a carcass?
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wolverines kill moose and beat up wolves


the wolves fight the wolverine they get beaten up lol


did you notice a coyote or bobcat cant chase a wolf from a carcass by itself no matter what? cause the wolf will kill them in a second a wolverine can do it cause the wolf wont mess with them.


Edited by Ophiophagy, Jul 31 2012, 10:52 PM.
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Well, cats are stronger than dogs pound for pound. It seems only logical that if a cat and a dog of equal sizes were to fight, the cat would usually win. Think about it. Cats can grapple due to their strong forelimbs, they have retractable claws, they have longer and sharper teeth, they can jump on fences and climb trees, and they are more independent than dogs.
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Jul 31 2012, 10:47 PM
a man wouldnt stop crying in the dog park yesterday cause he had to put down his rotty after it got in a fight with a fisher

he said the fisher use to always run from his dog but one time the dog caught it
Wow, what did the flying pig have to say about it?
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Jul 31 2012, 10:43 PM
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Jul 31 2012, 10:39 PM
felines are stronger than canines but they will be killed by the weasel family at equal weights, I dont think a cl is the king of its weight a wolverine or badger the same weight will kill it.
No way, A CL or pitbull would total a badger at equal weights, a wolverine would be slightly harder but it would still lose to both of them.
Naa i think a Wolverine would kill a Pitbull at equal weights.

Dogs are just badly designed for fighting.
They aren't bad designed for fighting, they're simply well adapted for pack hunting, also Wolverines are very tough and durable animals.
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Jul 31 2012, 10:52 PM
Well, cats are stronger than dogs pound for pound. It seems only logical that if a cat and a dog of equal sizes were to fight, the cat would usually win. Think about it. Cats can grapple due to their strong forelimbs, they have retractable claws, they have longer and sharper teeth, they can jump on fences and climb trees, and they are more independent than dogs.
Dogs usually have the stronger bite forces, but bite froce doesn't help against something fast and grappling. Also as WD once stated cats are quite ninja like and jump a lot while fighting. The only advantage of dogs is their higher stamina.
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