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Felids vs Canids at parity, who's stronger?; Who's stronger and most capable in a fight at parity?
Topic Started: Jul 31 2012, 11:41 AM (44,662 Views)
Ophiophagy
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k9 i was pretty shocked when i heard about it also cause we have a lot of fishers around me also they dont dare come in the yard, the thing that scared me is his dogs are very territorial like mine and his dogs are tough they arent wimps they could take mine out they arent man fighters but they are pretty alpha and tough when it comes to dogs and animals. I was in total shock that the fisher damaged it so bad it had to be put to sleep. He said the fisher got away and seemed fine when he got to them.


He said for the longest time it was scared of the dogs but something went wrong and the dogs caught it. I didnt push him to find out exactly what it did.


MNR released a crap load of fishers on my friends property to reintroduce them to control porcopine population they arent bad usually. They just get blamed for what coyotes do most of the time. My city conducted tests on cats and all dead cats with their heads cut off turned out to be killed by coyotes not fishers but people were blaming fishers. So this new thing was pretty shocking to everyone.
Edited by Ophiophagy, Jul 31 2012, 11:00 PM.
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A fisher will never come close to coming close to killing a rottweiler. Fishers get eaten by bobcats and coyotes, infact I'd back a patterdale terrier over one. A fisher failed to inflict serious injury to a gray fox, Do you really expect me to believe that one could kill a rottweiler.
Edited by k9boy, Jul 31 2012, 11:03 PM.
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it happend accept it, the man is crying


you think he went to the park and made it all up?


it wasnt an act of predation his dog attacked the fisher so the fisher was fighting for its life
Edited by Ophiophagy, Jul 31 2012, 11:04 PM.
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I'm betting this man is a figment of your imagination.

No I think you went to your computer and made it all up.
Edited by k9boy, Jul 31 2012, 11:05 PM.
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wow you are rude


you need to learn to accept the truth, you know i am never wrong, every time i tell you something i turn out right. Then you sheepishly admit it later.
Edited by Ophiophagy, Jul 31 2012, 11:06 PM.
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Jul 31 2012, 10:54 PM
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Jul 31 2012, 10:43 PM
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Jul 31 2012, 10:39 PM
felines are stronger than canines but they will be killed by the weasel family at equal weights, I dont think a cl is the king of its weight a wolverine or badger the same weight will kill it.
No way, A CL or pitbull would total a badger at equal weights, a wolverine would be slightly harder but it would still lose to both of them.
Naa i think a Wolverine would kill a Pitbull at equal weights.

Dogs are just badly designed for fighting.
They aren't bad designed for fighting, they're simply well adapted for pack hunting, also Wolverines are very tough and durable animals.
Well they are, all the top animal fighters have mobile limbs which can be used in a fight, felines,bears,Mustelidae, dogs sadly come bottom of the list.
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Jul 31 2012, 10:56 PM
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Jul 31 2012, 10:52 PM
Well, cats are stronger than dogs pound for pound. It seems only logical that if a cat and a dog of equal sizes were to fight, the cat would usually win. Think about it. Cats can grapple due to their strong forelimbs, they have retractable claws, they have longer and sharper teeth, they can jump on fences and climb trees, and they are more independent than dogs.
Dogs usually have the stronger bite forces, but bite froce doesn't help against something fast and grappling. Also as WD once stated cats are quite ninja like and jump a lot while fighting. The only advantage of dogs is their higher stamina.
I can agree with that. However, the strong bite and stamina are some of the only advantages a dog would have in a fight with a cat.
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good god k9 why would i make something so stupid up? maybe the fisher got lucky? but it did happen the dog is dead.
Edited by Ophiophagy, Jul 31 2012, 11:08 PM.
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Jul 31 2012, 11:05 PM
you need to learn to accept the truth, you know i am never wrong, every time i tell you something i turn out right. Then you sheepishly admit it later.
Hmm...Actually that has never happened. Making stuff up again poison?
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yeah the hawks attacking cats you said its not possible then i directed you to the place and you addmited that goshawks killed cats so do red tails but harris hawks kill the most cats lol you addmitted that they do kill a lot of cats lol but before you said it was not true


first you said my claims were lies then you came here and backed me up yourself lol
Edited by Ophiophagy, Jul 31 2012, 11:11 PM.
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Jul 31 2012, 11:09 PM
yeah the hawks attacking cats you said its not possible then i directed you to the place and you addmited that goshawks killed cats so do red tails but harris hawks kill the most cats lol you addmitted that they do kill a lot of cats lol but before you said it was not true
:huh: I said nothing of the sort. I admitted hawks kill cats but the opposite has happened more frequently.
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yeah you said goshawks kill cats right? and red tails? but harris hawks kill the most of them? That site i sent you to is full of that stuff.


but then you turned around and we could only find 2 or 3 cases of cats killing hawks dig all over that site there are only a few cases of cats killing hawks. We can make a thread about it you know i will be right. We can dig all over that site.
Edited by Ophiophagy, Jul 31 2012, 11:14 PM.
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felines are stronger than canines but they will be killed by the weasel family at equal weights, I dont think a cl is the king of its weight a wolverine or badger the same weight will kill it.
No way, A CL or pitbull would total a badger at equal weights, a wolverine would be slightly harder but it would still lose to both of them.
Naa i think a Wolverine would kill a Pitbull at equal weights.

Dogs are just badly designed for fighting.
They aren't bad designed for fighting, they're simply well adapted for pack hunting, also Wolverines are very tough and durable animals.
Well they are, all the top animal fighters have mobile limbs which can be used in a fight, felines,bears,Mustelidae, dogs sadly come bottom of the list.
It isn't that easy. T-rex had ridiculous limbs, still it was an apex predator.
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Jul 31 2012, 11:12 PM
yeah you said goshawks kill cats right? and red tails? but harris hawks kill the most of them? That site i sent you to is full of that stuff.
Before you posted the link to the site I said that hawks do kill cats but not as much as vice versa. And that website falconryforum has loads of accounts of hawks attacking cats, but then quickly having the tables turned on them and having to let there owner save them. And in all the accounts of hawks killing cats its all by ambush, the hawk would be killed if the cat knew it was coming.
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felines are stronger than canines but they will be killed by the weasel family at equal weights, I dont think a cl is the king of its weight a wolverine or badger the same weight will kill it.
No way, A CL or pitbull would total a badger at equal weights, a wolverine would be slightly harder but it would still lose to both of them.
Naa i think a Wolverine would kill a Pitbull at equal weights.

Dogs are just badly designed for fighting.
They aren't bad designed for fighting, they're simply well adapted for pack hunting, also Wolverines are very tough and durable animals.
Well they are, all the top animal fighters have mobile limbs which can be used in a fight, felines,bears,Mustelidae, dogs sadly come bottom of the list.
It isn't that easy. T-rex had ridiculous limbs, still it was an apex predator.
Yeah cus it was friggin massive.
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