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| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 18 2012, 08:59 AM (44,199 Views) | |
| Wild | Sep 15 2012, 01:15 PM Post #316 |
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sorry dude there' s a huge difference between an emperor and a typical desert scorpion anyone can tell you how well renowned emperor scorpion are for their fearsome crushing pincers but to replace one with a desert hairy is a total downgrade regardless of size. now if it were a more similar species like a giant forest Asian I might accept it |
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| Black Ice | Sep 15 2012, 01:17 PM Post #317 |
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![]() you reffering to these little guys? EDIT: It greatly depends on the pede moreso then the type of scorpion Edited by Black Ice, Sep 15 2012, 01:18 PM.
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| 221Extra | Sep 15 2012, 01:22 PM Post #318 |
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Deny, deny, deny.
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Cherry pick all you want, it was clear they were similar of size & what's your excuse for the flat rock scorpion having a centipede of equal size for lunch??? And your right it does depend more so on the pede species involved because it's clear if it doesn't have a size advantage it can't beat a scorpion! Edited by 221Extra, Sep 15 2012, 01:24 PM.
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| Black Ice | Sep 15 2012, 01:23 PM Post #319 |
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![]() a centipede and a feathered wind scorpion. I would show the full fights of the korean vids but im not about to pay for an app about insects fighting.
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| Black Ice | Sep 15 2012, 01:25 PM Post #320 |
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I wasn't cherry picking. It depends on the centipede species moreso then the scorpion species. As the smaller centipedes aren't as robust or as dangerous as the peruvian yellow leg or amazonian centipede or the desert ones if they weren't shrimps as i remember EDIT: im afraid your edit is incorrect. I proved that wrong already. Edited by Black Ice, Sep 18 2012, 11:33 AM.
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| Black Ice | Sep 15 2012, 01:31 PM Post #321 |
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my bad feathered wind scorpions are camel spiders, still camel spider have killed similiar sized scorpions but anywaykinda depends on the species of scorpion almost too. EDIT: Dammit the image won't show, it's a centipede killing a scorpion of similiar size. at least i.m.o. Before we continue define "similiar size" to me. as i don't get it. Pictures would be helpful Edited by Black Ice, Sep 15 2012, 01:33 PM.
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| Black Ice | Sep 15 2012, 01:34 PM Post #322 |
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Eww no i hate yellow clothing. Im all black,white, n grey BUT I AM NOT EMO! |
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| Jinfengopteryx | Sep 15 2012, 11:26 PM Post #323 |
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Aspiring paleontologist, science enthusiast and armchair speculative fiction/evolution writer
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Sorry, I didn't see that you were talking about full time predators. |
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| genao87 | Sep 16 2012, 10:02 PM Post #324 |
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Heterotrophic Organism
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black ice, every time you post videos here of insect fights in youtube, i cannot see it when i try to play it when hitting the play button. how do you play it? |
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| Fist of the North Shrimp | Sep 16 2012, 10:25 PM Post #325 |
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vá á orminum
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LOL, Crustaceans not being full time predators, that might be true for a lot of species, but you forget to consider MANTIS SHRIMPS and also pistol shrimps, remipedia(though I doubt it has better armor, BTW the look like the marine equivalent of Centipedes). Sorry, that was neccesary ;-) |
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| Wild | Sep 17 2012, 11:34 AM Post #326 |
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mantis shrmips and pistol shrimps have very impressive weaponry but certainly not impressive prey in terms of size or danger mantis shrimp prey on snails, crabs, molluscs and rock oysters all are hard shelled and pretty well armored but the mantis shrimp ha evolved to take them out rather easily without much of a fight. While pistol shrimp use their amazing sonic abilities simply to take smaller shrimp, I mean come one they can break glass jars and stun larger fish they have much more potential to gain more food |
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| Fist of the North Shrimp | Sep 17 2012, 07:12 PM Post #327 |
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vá á orminum
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^ You are totally omitting SPEARER Mantis Shrimps(I would not like having one in a fish tank), and how is taking out larger(which happens) or similary sized crabs unimpressive? Not every Mantis Shrimp is a Peacock one... Most of their prey is smaller than themselves, but so is the prey of the other contenders. When they attack robust crabs with thick shells, it can take them several minutes to kill them, often breaking off the crabs arm with their blows And I do not see how speares are different than the other contenders, they cling onto their prey and eat it. Not dangerous? Similar sized Crabs have powerful claws that easily could snap them, yet they attack them. Spearers have attacked somewhat larger Pufferfishes, which are natural predators of Crustaceans. Not to start that you were excluding Crustaceans because they were no active predators, know they take less impressive prey... Sorry if I sound somewhat harsh, but this is a matter dear to me. Obviously most people do not know much about Mantis Shrimps except what they get from the Aquarium Trade/Documentaries/Youtube. |
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| Wild | Sep 17 2012, 07:39 PM Post #328 |
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I'm sorry but I've never seen a mantis shrimp take out a larger crab |
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| Black Ice | Sep 17 2012, 08:42 PM Post #329 |
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Why do you think they never put them in the same enclosure? |
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| Fist of the North Shrimp | Sep 17 2012, 09:10 PM Post #330 |
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vá á orminum
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Well, I have seen only one(taking out a heavier crab) on youtube, but that does not represent what they actually do in nature. Most Aquarium owners seem to be rather reasonable (larger prey means more dangerous prey, and also more expensive), and do not put their pets into unnecessary danger, be it due to financial reasons or being emotionally attached to them. Have you seen people feeding their PET! Mantis/Pede/whatever really dangerous prey? I did not feed anything really dangerous to my Tarantula ot Mantids. Oh while were are at Mantis Shrimps, I just heard of someone who got his finger by a Lysosquilla. LOL. |
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my bad feathered wind scorpions are camel spiders, still camel spider have killed similiar sized scorpions but anyway


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