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Centipede/spider/mantis/scorpion
Topic Started: Aug 18 2012, 08:59 AM (44,198 Views)
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Black Ice
Sep 17 2012, 08:42 PM
Why do you think they never put them in the same enclosure?
for a number of reason they could both potentially hurt each other
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221 extra the reverse happened in my video.
not really, the pede was running away the whole type focusing all it's energy on attempting to escape and evade the scorp. Now if it decided to get up close and personal and actually confront and try to kill the emperor things would change, the emperor would be given a wide open shot to grab the pede since now the pede is running AT it not AWAY from it.
i was referring to this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE-LMPHR_TY&feature=related
that's a desert hairy scorpion, it has weak claws and thinner armor as well as being less robust
oh my god ok.
Does anyone have a video of a tropical centipede fighting a emperor scorpion? LIke a real fight? This is getting tedious.
sorry dude there' s a huge difference between an emperor and a typical desert scorpion anyone can tell you how well renowned emperor scorpion are for their fearsome crushing pincers but to replace one with a desert hairy is a total downgrade regardless of size. now if it were a more similar species like a giant forest Asian I might accept it
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a centipede and a feathered wind scorpion.
I would show the full fights of the korean vids but im not about to pay for an app about insects fighting.  :-/
that's a solifugae, most species aren't very large, well armored and lack neom you can't compare one to an emperor or giant Asian forest
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Sep 17 2012, 09:10 PM
Well, I have seen only one(taking out a heavier crab) on youtube, but that does not represent what they actually do in nature.
Most Aquarium owners seem to be rather reasonable (larger prey means more dangerous prey, and also more expensive), and do not put their pets into unnecessary danger, be it due to financial reasons or being emotionally attached to them. Have you seen people feeding their PET! Mantis/Pede/whatever really dangerous prey? I did not feed anything really dangerous to my Tarantula ot Mantids.

Oh while were are at Mantis Shrimps, I just heard of someone who got his finger by a Lysosquilla. LOL.
a little off topic but, you have tarantulas and mantids? What species? Can you post pics? In nature they probably avoid those crabs and that feat of predation in captivity may have well been a fluke maybe
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A used to have them, my Tarantula died last year at age 17, She was a Brachypelma albopilosum, and a rather big one, but pretty docile to humans, I think I still have pics of her, so I can post them when I find them.
For Mantids, I had Hierodula grandis, and only kept 6 of them(I had to give some away because I had to few tanks for them), because they were a beige color mutation.
Only one was a female, and when I wanted to breed them, the MALE(sic!) decided to eat the Female, even though I fed the goodly. I got him of her, but it was to late, the next day she was dead in her Tank.

Considering Mantis Shrimps, believe me, they are very bold and attack larger animals, I have seen a spearer one attached to a larger fish(but ultimately it was to large).
So i would not call their prey unimpressive.
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Sep 18 2012, 05:03 AM
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221 extra the reverse happened in my video.
not really, the pede was running away the whole type focusing all it's energy on attempting to escape and evade the scorp. Now if it decided to get up close and personal and actually confront and try to kill the emperor things would change, the emperor would be given a wide open shot to grab the pede since now the pede is running AT it not AWAY from it.
i was referring to this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE-LMPHR_TY&feature=related
that's a desert hairy scorpion, it has weak claws and thinner armor as well as being less robust
oh my god ok.
Does anyone have a video of a tropical centipede fighting a emperor scorpion? LIke a real fight? This is getting tedious.
sorry dude there' s a huge difference between an emperor and a typical desert scorpion anyone can tell you how well renowned emperor scorpion are for their fearsome crushing pincers but to replace one with a desert hairy is a total downgrade regardless of size. now if it were a more similar species like a giant forest Asian I might accept it
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a centipede and a feathered wind scorpion.
I would show the full fights of the korean vids but im not about to pay for an app about insects fighting.  :-/
that's a solifugae, most species aren't very large, well armored and lack neom you can't compare one to an emperor or giant Asian forest
True.
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Oh ya wild dog
Cut the QUOTING DOWN ITS STARTING TO RUB OFF ON ME!!!!
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Sep 18 2012, 06:44 AM
Oh ya wild dog
Cut the QUOTING DOWN ITS STARTING TO RUB OFF ON ME!!!!
lol lol ok, by the way I saw you suggestion about pede vs mantis in the request area of inter species match-ups I commented on what I thought would be the ideal match-up between pede and mantis you might wanna see it and give me some feedback
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Ok ill see it.
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my new list of best fighters at parity

1. Emperor Scorpion

2. Giant Asian Mantis

3. Peruvian Yellowleg Centipede

4. Goliath Birdeater




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I really think your either
A. Trying to piss me off
B. You have something against pedes to put a MANTIS above them
r C. You just dont realize scorps arent as formidable as most say.
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So you rank a matis over a pede huh?
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=jFuIjLVFFFI&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DjFuIjLVFFFI
A centipede would have done MUCH better than....... That.
A mantis technique is complete GARBAGE when going up against armored arthropods such as pedes or scorps.
Edited by Black Ice, Sep 18 2012, 11:19 AM.
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Sep 18 2012, 11:03 AM
I really think your either
A. Trying to piss me off
B. You have something against pedes to put a MANTIS above them
r C. You just dont realize scorps arent as formidable as most say.
uh how about D. none of the above how pissed are you? :( There's a cruelty fight at parity of a mantis killing a centipede, once they get those raptorial forearms on it's over, the pede is caught on the sharp spikes lining the forearms, scorpions' grip is too strong for the other arthropods to break out of, they can hold onto struggling mice and big lubber grasshoppers as well as breaking human skin, putting dents in pencils, breaking pen casings, and supposedly tearing up wire mesh sheets for their cages (these account scan be viewed in scorp vs weta). I can't see how any invertebrate could over come those great restraining mechanisms. I'll drop this debate if you want tho. honestly I LOVE pedes they're the most aggressive of all the arthropods here which makes them fascinating and fierce hunters I have nothing against them. How could I, did you see the way I freaked out when Vod showed his, it instantly made me want one.
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Sep 18 2012, 11:16 AM
So you rank a matis over a pede huh?
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=jFuIjLVFFFI&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DjFuIjLVFFFI
A centipede would have done MUCH better than....... That.
A mantis technique is complete GARBAGE when going up against armored arthropods such as pedes or scorps.
the weights look similar I guess but the mantis they put in there was a weak hooded mantis, put in a member of the Hierodula genus (the ones knwon to take snakes larger than themselves) and the fight might've been a little more intense plus we already have scorpions beheading pedes in that one picture. The pede would have been totaled too if it chose to go on offense like the mantis.
Edited by Wild, Sep 18 2012, 11:29 AM.
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I was joking with me being pissed dude.
Also i want to see that vid, as i doubt the pede was that big or robust or even an aggressive species, was it start to finish? Or it started miravulously with the mantis magically appearing with the pefe in its grasp? It could have been just handed to the mantis to grab or already dead.
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Sep 18 2012, 11:28 AM
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Sep 18 2012, 11:16 AM
So you rank a matis over a pede huh?
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=jFuIjLVFFFI&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DjFuIjLVFFFI
A centipede would have done MUCH better than....... That.
A mantis technique is complete GARBAGE when going up against armored arthropods such as pedes or scorps.
the weights look similar I guess but the mantis they put in there was a weak hooded mantis, put in a member of the Hierodula genus (the ones knwon to take snakes larger than themselves) and the fight might've been a little more intense plus we already have scorpions beheading pedes in tha tone picture.
And i have pics and vids of pedes killing scorps, what are you trying to prove that hasnt already been countered by me? Also explain exactly what the snake killing mantis would have done differently? In the end its still gonna be scorp food.
Edited by Black Ice, Sep 18 2012, 11:31 AM.
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