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| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 18 2012, 08:59 AM (44,217 Views) | |
| Black Ice | Aug 18 2012, 11:21 AM Post #46 |
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http://ula.academia.edu/Jes%C3%BAsMolinari/Papers/671590/Predation_by_giant_centipedes_Scolopendra_gigantea_on_three_species_of_bats_in_a_Venezuelan_cave Read it and weep guys I doubt a mantis can take a bat much heavier than it! Centipedes are superior to mantis in both fighting and killing Edited by Black Ice, Aug 18 2012, 11:22 AM.
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| linnaeus1758 | Aug 18 2012, 11:28 AM Post #47 |
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That is really impressive, but remember that they have a powerful venom. Bats would die instantly... |
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| Black Ice | Aug 18 2012, 11:30 AM Post #48 |
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They dont die instantly. They fight back furiously for a while...then die. Just shows how powerful the pede is in order to hold on to one while upside down |
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| linnaeus1758 | Aug 18 2012, 11:34 AM Post #49 |
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Venom does all the work. |
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| Black Ice | Aug 18 2012, 11:35 AM Post #50 |
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No the centipede must keep the bat from escaping while dangling from the ceiling. So no venom only does part of the work. The centipedes strength restrains the bat Edited by Black Ice, Aug 18 2012, 11:36 AM.
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| 221Extra | Aug 18 2012, 11:45 AM Post #51 |
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Deny, deny, deny.
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When Scorpions are of similar size to Centipedes they'll win as they do against Tarantulas and Mantids which are both sub par fighters without ambush. So I say Scorpions, tho when talking biggest Centipede wins. |
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| Black Ice | Aug 18 2012, 11:46 AM Post #52 |
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Ive only seen scorpions kill smaller centipedes. Never seen one take the larger ones |
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| 221Extra | Aug 18 2012, 12:01 PM Post #53 |
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Deny, deny, deny.
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I've seen a smaller desert Scorpion kill a larger Centipede on those Gladiator Bug fights. |
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| Black Ice | Aug 18 2012, 12:03 PM Post #54 |
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And ive seen spiders kill those scorpions,then watched the centipede kill them. In all raund the centipede won nearly every fight it was in. even against the emperor scorpion
Edited by Black Ice, Aug 18 2012, 12:03 PM.
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| linnaeus1758 | Aug 18 2012, 12:06 PM Post #55 |
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Like DinosaurMichael said in the tiger vs lion thread, sometimes wins centipede, and sometimes the scorpion. |
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| Wild | Aug 18 2012, 12:26 PM Post #56 |
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mantis' don't get punked by anything that fights back? Are you kidding? They handle snakes larger than themselves for pete's sake. Dude taking scorpions is NOT impressive, scorpions aren't strong neither are they aggressive. They only take things like insects. The tarantula in the video was caught in an ambush and couldn't even move becuase it was corralled in like two seconds. Praying mantis' ARE more impressive. How could you even rank a scorpion near one concerning killing ability scorpions don't take things bigger than large insects, I already explainable the fer de lance ting for the spider the snake is not as deadly as people take on, and centipede's honestly are the most formidable of spiders or scorpions but their corralling technique doesn't seem to work well with long animals like snakes, They sometimes are killed by snakes of similar size look a this: ![]() |
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| Black Ice | Aug 18 2012, 12:47 PM Post #57 |
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Sorry buddy my lazyness kicked in so ill read that later |
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| Wild | Aug 18 2012, 12:48 PM Post #58 |
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ok no probs it's getting late anyways I'll drop one more post so you'll have two things to read tommorrow |
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| Wild | Aug 18 2012, 12:56 PM Post #59 |
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I'd like to mention giant water bugs should be included in this whole "arthropod predator showground" too. They're big aggressive predators look at this:![]() ![]() ![]() http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/13500857 Though as I suspected they rely powerful venom and I don't see them accomplishing these feats without it Edited by Wild, Aug 18 2012, 10:03 PM.
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| Black Ice | Aug 19 2012, 12:04 AM Post #60 |
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Ok for your 1st post. I mean scorpions are superior fighters to mantis. Not hunters. Also I never denied a snake could kill a centipede. But just look at their fighting techniques Tarantulas use their brute force and run you over then sinks their fangs in Scorpions hold you with their pincers while they repetedly stab you with their tails Centipedes use their entire body as a weapon, wrapping you up to restrain your movements,then sinking those fangs into armor,skin or whatever. What do mantis do? Their slim build makes it easier for the spider to pin it,the scorp to grab it with little resistance,and the centiped to wrap around it. I just don't see mantis as good fighters. Have you seen them fight same sized arthropods etc? they always come out worse. But back to the snake thing http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DooFSFR2s7Ig&v=ooFSFR2s7Ig&gl=US This one took a frog
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