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Interspecific Conflict Guidelines & Requests
Topic Started: Aug 25 2012, 08:32 PM (77,612 Views)
Taipan
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SpinoInWonderland
The madness has come back...
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Superpredator
Dec 29 2012, 07:47 PM
brolyeuphyfusion
Dec 26 2012, 02:01 AM
theropod
Dec 26 2012, 01:55 AM
Asaurus
Dec 24 2012, 12:34 PM
Tyrannosaurus vs Saltasaurus
sure that's a fair fight? to me it seems like the already more formidable tyrannosaur would have had a weight advantage to top it all...
No it wouldn't, Saltasaurus was was more massive

Saltasaurus, 7.25 tonnes
Saltasaurus, 8 tonnes
Too bad Rex was 9.5t.
No it wasn't

That was an exaggerated liberal estimate based on the assumption that Tyrannosaurus was a fat sausage
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Superpredator
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brolyeuphyfusion
Dec 29 2012, 07:53 PM
Superpredator
Dec 29 2012, 07:47 PM
brolyeuphyfusion
Dec 26 2012, 02:01 AM
theropod
Dec 26 2012, 01:55 AM
Asaurus
Dec 24 2012, 12:34 PM
Tyrannosaurus vs Saltasaurus
sure that's a fair fight? to me it seems like the already more formidable tyrannosaur would have had a weight advantage to top it all...
No it wouldn't, Saltasaurus was was more massive

Saltasaurus, 7.25 tonnes
Saltasaurus, 8 tonnes
Too bad Rex was 9.5t.
No it wasn't

That was an exaggerated liberal estimate based on the assumption that Tyrannosaurus was a fat sausage
Fat? Looks fine to me (also keep in mind this was the MINIMUM estimate for Sue):
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SpinoInWonderland
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Superpredator
Dec 29 2012, 08:02 PM
brolyeuphyfusion
Dec 29 2012, 07:53 PM
Superpredator
Dec 29 2012, 07:47 PM
brolyeuphyfusion
Dec 26 2012, 02:01 AM
theropod
Dec 26 2012, 01:55 AM
Asaurus
Dec 24 2012, 12:34 PM
Tyrannosaurus vs Saltasaurus
sure that's a fair fight? to me it seems like the already more formidable tyrannosaur would have had a weight advantage to top it all...
No it wouldn't, Saltasaurus was was more massive

Saltasaurus, 7.25 tonnes
Saltasaurus, 8 tonnes
Too bad Rex was 9.5t.
No it wasn't

That was an exaggerated liberal estimate based on the assumption that Tyrannosaurus was a fat sausage
Fat? Looks fine to me (also keep in mind this was the MINIMUM estimate for Sue):
Posted Image
That wasn't the model, it was this one below which had the 9.5-tonne estimate:

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As you can see, it's very fat, how can it be an efficient apex predator at that level of obesity!?
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Superpredator
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brolyeuphyfusion
Dec 29 2012, 08:08 PM
Superpredator
Dec 29 2012, 08:02 PM
brolyeuphyfusion
Dec 29 2012, 07:53 PM
Superpredator
Dec 29 2012, 07:47 PM
brolyeuphyfusion
Dec 26 2012, 02:01 AM
theropod
Dec 26 2012, 01:55 AM
Asaurus
Dec 24 2012, 12:34 PM
Tyrannosaurus vs Saltasaurus
sure that's a fair fight? to me it seems like the already more formidable tyrannosaur would have had a weight advantage to top it all...
No it wouldn't, Saltasaurus was was more massive

Saltasaurus, 7.25 tonnes
Saltasaurus, 8 tonnes
Too bad Rex was 9.5t.
No it wasn't

That was an exaggerated liberal estimate based on the assumption that Tyrannosaurus was a fat sausage
Fat? Looks fine to me (also keep in mind this was the MINIMUM estimate for Sue):
Posted Image
That wasn't the model, it was this one below which had the 9.5-tonne estimate:

Posted Image

As you can see, it's very fat, how can it be an efficient apex predator at that level of obesity!?
Obese?! Min for Sue is perfect!
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SpinoInWonderland
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Superpredator
Dec 29 2012, 08:23 PM
brolyeuphyfusion
Dec 29 2012, 08:08 PM
Superpredator
Dec 29 2012, 08:02 PM
brolyeuphyfusion
Dec 29 2012, 07:53 PM
Superpredator
Dec 29 2012, 07:47 PM
brolyeuphyfusion
Dec 26 2012, 02:01 AM
theropod
Dec 26 2012, 01:55 AM
Asaurus
Dec 24 2012, 12:34 PM
Tyrannosaurus vs Saltasaurus
sure that's a fair fight? to me it seems like the already more formidable tyrannosaur would have had a weight advantage to top it all...
No it wouldn't, Saltasaurus was was more massive

Saltasaurus, 7.25 tonnes
Saltasaurus, 8 tonnes
Too bad Rex was 9.5t.
No it wasn't

That was an exaggerated liberal estimate based on the assumption that Tyrannosaurus was a fat sausage
Fat? Looks fine to me (also keep in mind this was the MINIMUM estimate for Sue):
Posted Image
That wasn't the model, it was this one below which had the 9.5-tonne estimate:

Posted Image

As you can see, it's very fat, how can it be an efficient apex predator at that level of obesity!?
Obese?! Min for Sue is perfect!
No it is not
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Arovinrac
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Carnotaurus (or possibly bigger theropod such as Ekrixinatosaurus) vs ankylosaurus
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brolyeuphyfusion
Dec 29 2012, 07:53 PM
Superpredator
Dec 29 2012, 07:47 PM
brolyeuphyfusion
Dec 26 2012, 02:01 AM
theropod
Dec 26 2012, 01:55 AM
Asaurus
Dec 24 2012, 12:34 PM
Tyrannosaurus vs Saltasaurus
sure that's a fair fight? to me it seems like the already more formidable tyrannosaur would have had a weight advantage to top it all...
No it wouldn't, Saltasaurus was was more massive

Saltasaurus, 7.25 tonnes
Saltasaurus, 8 tonnes
Too bad Rex was 9.5t.
No it wasn't

That was an exaggerated liberal estimate based on the assumption that Tyrannosaurus was a fat sausage
and yours for Saltasaurus is as well, not to mention it is not even supported by any study...
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MysteryMeat
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brolyeuphyfusion
Dec 29 2012, 08:37 PM
Superpredator
Dec 29 2012, 08:23 PM
brolyeuphyfusion
Dec 29 2012, 08:08 PM
Superpredator
Dec 29 2012, 08:02 PM
brolyeuphyfusion
Dec 29 2012, 07:53 PM
Superpredator
Dec 29 2012, 07:47 PM
brolyeuphyfusion
Dec 26 2012, 02:01 AM
theropod
Dec 26 2012, 01:55 AM
Asaurus
Dec 24 2012, 12:34 PM
Tyrannosaurus vs Saltasaurus
sure that's a fair fight? to me it seems like the already more formidable tyrannosaur would have had a weight advantage to top it all...
No it wouldn't, Saltasaurus was was more massive

Saltasaurus, 7.25 tonnes
Saltasaurus, 8 tonnes
Too bad Rex was 9.5t.
No it wasn't

That was an exaggerated liberal estimate based on the assumption that Tyrannosaurus was a fat sausage
Fat? Looks fine to me (also keep in mind this was the MINIMUM estimate for Sue):
Posted Image
That wasn't the model, it was this one below which had the 9.5-tonne estimate:

Posted Image

As you can see, it's very fat, how can it be an efficient apex predator at that level of obesity!?
Obese?! Min for Sue is perfect!
No it is not
Very convincing argument.

Your 8t Saltasaurus estimate is way more absurd than a 9.5t rex.

You can believe whatever you want, even if it's rubbish.
Edited by MysteryMeat, Dec 31 2012, 12:17 PM.
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Jinfengopteryx
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Superpredator
Dec 29 2012, 07:47 PM
Too bad Rex was 9.5t.
That is Sue, an average T-rex would weigh around of 6,6t:
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For Sue, I think 9,5t are acceptable, but I rather believe in an 8t Sue:
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Also, that text part showed that adult T-rexes can vary from 5-8t (8t are probably specimen like Sue), 6,5t is a good meridian.
Here Mazzetta believed a robust Tyrannosaurus morph (like Sue) to weigh 8t:
http://www.miketaylor.org.uk/tmp/papers/Mazzetta-et-al_04_SA-dino-body-size.pdf
Verdugo also once showed a quote from Thomas R. Holtz, where he stated T-rex to weigh 8t at max., so I think this is the most realistic weight for Sue.
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Maelstrom
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Spinosaurus vs Aegyptosaurus
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Ausar
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Velociraptor vs. Sinornithosaurus (pack of 3).
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brolyeuphyfusion
Sep 1 2012, 07:21 PM
Jinfengopteryx
Sep 1 2012, 07:11 PM
How's it heavier? Scaling down from a Triceratops, you don't get much more than 50 kg.
You can't scale down from Triceratops, Protoceratops doesn't even look like Triceratops

Taking a published estimate is better than scaling down a very different animal


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From this paper: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=protoceratops+mass&source=web&cd=7&ved=0CFkQFjAG&url=http%3A%2F%2Flesv.ivpp.ac.cn%2Fdisk_files%2Fdownload%2F259&ei=Ai8AUPr4HMzPrQeGyoiMBg&usg=AFQjCNEJDr11vCshel62g0EkXC5coDUy4A


Protoceratops has a mass of 177 kilograms
Do you realize that Colbert also gave ~80t for a Brachiosaurus?
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According to him, Protoceratops was bulkier than Triceratops, exept if his Triceratops is just 7m long. If his Triceratops is 9m long, Protoceratops would even be twice as massive. Not just that, when looking at the other estimates for Triceratops, his Triceratops could be overestimated.
Anyway, scaling up from Seebachers estimate, we get ~70 kg for a 2m Protoceratops.
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Megalosaurus vs Aerosteon or Megaraptor
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Tyrannosaurus vs. Tyrannotitan. I'll save this for later.
Edited by Ausar, Jan 4 2013, 08:26 AM.
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