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| Tweet Topic Started: Oct 16 2012, 05:20 PM (9,668 Views) | |
| Taipan | Oct 16 2012, 05:20 PM Post #1 |
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Savuti Pride - Panthera leo The Savuti Pride is a pride of lions numbering about 30 members famous for killing elephants. The lion (Panthera leo) is one of the four big cats in the genus Panthera, and a member of the family Felidae. With some males exceeding 250 kg (550 lb) in weight, it is the second-largest living cat after the tiger. Wild lions currently exist in Sub-Saharan Africa and in Asia with an endangered remnant population in Gir Forest National Park in India, having disappeared from North Africa and Southwest Asia in historic times. Until the late Pleistocene, about 10,000 years ago, the lion was the most widespread large land mammal after humans. They were found in most of Africa, across Eurasia from western Europe to India, and in the Americas from the Yukon to Peru. The lion is a vulnerable species, having seen a possibly irreversible population decline of thirty to fifty percent over the past two decades in its African range. The African lion is a very large cat, with males weighing between 330 and 550 pounds and females weighing between 260 and 400 pounds. It is 8 to 10 feet long, not including the tail. Its most famous feature is its mane, which only male lions have. The mane is a yellow color when the lion is young and darkens with age. Eventually, the mane will be dark brown. The body of the African lion is well suited for hunting. It is very muscular, with back legs designed for pouncing and front legs made for grabbing and knocking down prey. It also has very strong jaws that enable it to eat the large prey that it hunts. ![]() Tarbosaurus bataar Tarbosaurus belongs in the subfamily Tyrannosaurinae within the family Tyrannosauridae, along with the earlier Daspletosaurus, the more recent Tyrannosaurus and possibly Alioramus. Animals in this subfamily are more closely related to Tyrannosaurus than to Albertosaurus and are known for their robust build with proportionally larger skulls and longer femurs than in the other subfamily, the Albertosaurinae. Although many specimens of this genus have been found, little definite data was confirmed on the dinosaur as of 1986, though it was presumed to share many characteristics with other tyrannosaurids. The close similarities have prompted some scientists to suggest a possible link between the North American and Eurasian continents at that time, perhaps in the form of a land bridge. As with most dinosaurs, Tarbosaurus size estimates have varied through recent years. It could have been 10 meters long, with a weight of 4 to 5 tons ![]() __________________________________________________________________________-
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| theropod | Oct 17 2012, 04:26 AM Post #2 |
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A whole pride that is known to kill huge animals would be too much. Don“t forget large elephants are somewhat bigger than tarbo, closer to rex and possibly even slightly exceeding it. Tarbo would kill many of them though. |
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| Fragillimus335 | Oct 17 2012, 05:22 AM Post #3 |
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The Lions might....MIGHT, be able to weigh the dino down and pull it over, but if they can't Tarbosaurus destroys them all. |
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| Wyvax | Oct 17 2012, 05:27 AM Post #4 |
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The biggest difference between the elephant and tarbosaurus hear is that an elephant can't bite a lion in half with its jaws. I see a very ticked off and well fed tarbosaurus and 2/3 of a terrified, fleeing Savuti pride in the end. |
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| theropod | Oct 17 2012, 05:33 AM Post #5 |
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but an elephant can trample a lion or kill it with a single swipe of its proboscis. |
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| Rashido | Oct 17 2012, 05:38 AM Post #6 |
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An elephant's trunk can kill a lion?!?!
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| theropod | Oct 17 2012, 05:53 AM Post #7 |
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I heard it could. guess if it hits the skull the lion will be dead... not sure whether there was actual evidence for that, i mean it is also said ostriches could kill lions with one kick, but there seem to be no recosnred cases of them doing it |
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| Verdugo | Oct 17 2012, 03:58 PM Post #8 |
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Yes lions can kill Elephant, but usually, they choose smaller female, older, weaker one and they attack at night Also, elephant lacks of weaponry, compare to Tarbo. The lion would be destroyed quite easily, but Tarbo would receive few scraps |
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| Taipan | Oct 17 2012, 05:00 PM Post #9 |
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So if in that one video, those lions had killed that rhino, you'd back them easily against Tarbosaurus? |
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| Fishfreak | Oct 17 2012, 09:54 PM Post #10 |
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as formidable as the savuti pride may sound, they hunt sick, weak, young or old elephants at night when elephants can't rely on sight, but i doubt it would easy for them to take on a fully grown bull in daylight as for tarbo well it's more agile and has better weaponry than an elephant. Although an elephant would beat a tarbo, tarbo is better suited for this fight, but 30 lions! It won't be easy, and if the lions are lucky and work well enough together they may just be able to kill tarbo. 65/35 in favour of tarbo
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| Megafelis Fatalis | Oct 17 2012, 10:21 PM Post #11 |
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Not all Pride Members are adult, and some are females (which are around 40%-50% smaller than Males) |
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| Verdugo | Oct 17 2012, 11:01 PM Post #12 |
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Nope, Tarbosaurus weighs twice as much as that rhino, maybe even more |
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| Jinfengopteryx | Oct 17 2012, 11:04 PM Post #13 |
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Yeah, but that's why I wrote similar sized. Tarbo is lighter than a bull elephant. |
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| Verdugo | Oct 18 2012, 12:11 AM Post #14 |
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It's only slighter, not by much, only bull male elephant can weigh up to 6 tonnes, normally they are lighter than that |
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| Ausar | Jun 29 2013, 11:53 PM Post #15 |
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Yes, I haven't heard of any incidents where elephants kill anything bigger than humans with their proboscis, nor ostriches killing lions with one kick, so I wouldn't take any of that seriously. As for the matchup, Tarbosaurus wins 65% of the time. I think it would still be strong enough to take on all 30 and kill many, if not most or all of them, not to mention as other posters have pointed out, many of the lions are females (which are significantly lighter than males), and that many factors helped them kill elephants. |
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