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Sooo, dinosaurs have officially turned into birds
Topic Started: Nov 3 2012, 08:13 AM (10,707 Views)
Godzillasaurus
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Not in the evolutionary sense, but in the sarcastic sense. Dinosaurs used to be large, scaly, beasts. Now, everyone thinks they all (yes, including sauropods) had feathers. If there have been countless dinosaur skin-impressions, and only a couple feathered non-ceoulosaur theropods, I guess that just puts feathers on every dinosaur, even when the evidence states otherwise. Anyone else bothered by this? :angry:
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J3st3r56
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Feb 17 2015, 09:41 PM
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Feb 17 2015, 08:01 PM
Honestly, I'm goddamn sick of all these bloody children crying about how dinosaurs "arent cool anymore" or "they look silly" or "they make drawings look weird". I'm 15 and I act more maturely than alot of people on the internet. Its the same kind of people who want dinosaurs to bend to their will. "Spinosaurus wasn't quadropedal!", "Spinosaurus could kick t-rex's butt!", "Dinosaurs didn't have feathers!". It really just makes me tired it does. Sorry for ranting, I know it should gone on my blog or something, but that's just how i feel.
It is okay. Besides, the first post was a rant too.

Clearly, what you describe is psychological. Maybe it conflicts with peoples personal identity or whatever. I think dinosaur popular culture is partly to blame for the aversion towards changes in the dinosaurs.

I personally think dinosaurs are cooler than ever. The feathers, the differences in age, etc. They are starting to become more diverse.

I agree with the cooler than ever bit because feathers allow for alot more freedom in terms of colouration and design with the people who look at dinosaurs artistically and like them for the asthetics. These are the same people, however, that complain about feathers in the first place. From a scientific point of view, aesthetics aren't a concern, but in terms of art and people who draw and paint and aren't involved with the science shouldn't mind either because they can draw dinosaurs how they want. Look at crocodiles. Their colour palette is limited to browny-green to swampy-grey. But birds get so much more. I'm not saying all dinosaurs had sky blue feathers, but they can at least be more vibrant.
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Feb 18 2015, 03:58 AM
I don't get why some people are convinced that large theropods like tyrannosaurus would be brightly colored. Sure a lot of birds have bright plumages but last I checked not many predatory ones do. Even then, the birds usually have the advantage pf flight so even if they are blue or red they could still ambush effectively ambush prey.
exactly. not only is it visually displeasing, it is also evolutionary inefficient. journey to dinosaur island was just eye rape of blues and greens and reds on their theropods. walking with dinosaurs is the same way. really, make the feathered theropods look ferocious and deadly, yet realistic at the same time. theres no need to make it look like a giant tucan or humming bird.

but check this out
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this was actually from a fairly old documentary called march of the dinosaurs. this is the look they need to aim for. their tyrannosaurs looked awesome, realistic, and deadly. topped off with being visually appealing and was just a true eye grabber in the entire film. unfortunately it's budget, animation points, and certain points of accuracy, fall lat in expectations, though i still enjoyed the documentary alot.
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Feb 18 2015, 01:55 AM
make the feathered dinosaurs ferocious and threatening. not bright and flamboyant.
I prefer the latter, it's simply more realistic and accurate, for documentaries, but for fictional descriptions, they can describe it any way they want, but it's only for entertainment, the bright and flamboyant descriptions are for education.
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Mar 20 2015, 09:53 PM
I prefer the latter, it's simply more realistic and accurate
How so?
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Mar 20 2015, 09:53 PM
spinosaurus rex
Feb 18 2015, 01:55 AM
make the feathered dinosaurs ferocious and threatening. not bright and flamboyant.
I prefer the latter, it's simply more realistic and accurate, for documentaries, but for fictional descriptions, they can describe it any way they want, but it's only for entertainment, the bright and flamboyant descriptions are for education.
Is it really more accurate? How is a Tyrannosaurus supposed to ambush an Edmontosaurus when it might as well have a sign on its head saying "There is a Tyrannosaurus here"?

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't be surprised if feathered theropods became super fabulous in the mating season, but other then that, they are still predators. They need to blend in with their environment. I think green, brown and black would be the more common colors amongst predatory dinosaurs. And so far, the few feathered dinosaurs whose colors we do know do indeed appear to primarily stick to these less flamboyant colors. And those are mostly small dinosaurs who have plenty of places to hide. Scale it up to T.rex size, and you're gonna need good camouflage even more!
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As a predator you don't have to necessary blend in. I would argue that in persistence hunting you can be as fancy as you wish. Only species specifically adopted to ambushing would be the ones that need to have camouflage.
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Mar 21 2015, 01:27 AM
As a predator you don't have to necessary blend in. I would argue that in persistence hunting you can be as fancy as you wish. Only species specifically adopted to ambushing would be the ones that need to have camouflage.
Well, that still covers the majority of theropods.
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I thought we had scaly skin impressions of T-rex.
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Mar 21 2015, 03:18 AM
I thought we had scaly skin impressions of T-rex.
I think so, but that doesn't mean the entire animal was devoid of feathers. For example, it could have a breast of feathers on its head, or maybe some feathers on its arms or tail. With close relatives like Yutyrannus being feathered, it is entirely possible T.rex had at least some feathers here ad there.
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No, birds are dinosaurs, it's not the other way around.

The same way bats are mammals.
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Dinosaurs never die!
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...they respawn in five seconds. :)
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Mar 21 2015, 06:52 AM
...they respawn in five seconds. :)
How funny.
I'm serious. Lately I seriously believe that dinosaurs still exist but in different forms. However the "old school" ones were cooler.
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It's an old halo joke. Spartans never die...they respawn in five seconds.

Dinosaurs will always be with us, deal with it dinohaters!
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Mar 21 2015, 07:04 AM
It's an old halo joke. Spartans never die...they respawn in five seconds.

Dinosaurs will always be with us, deal with it dinohaters!
Or should you say... mammal lovers!
This forum is kinda "mammals VS dinosaurs".
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