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Dinosaur's roar strong enough to blow objects?; Did any of the Dinosaurs possess a roar so strong it can blow inanimate objects?
Topic Started: Nov 19 2012, 09:39 AM (2,868 Views)
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Hey everyone :)
I'm a huge Jurassic Park fan, in Jurassic Park 1 (1993) during the iconic first appearance of Tyrannosaurus Rex, there is a scene where T-Rex's roar is so powerful that it actually blows off Sam Neil's hat off his head. Similar instances are in cartoons too.
Now to my knowledge i can't name a single 'living' creature today that is capable of having a roar so powerful it can blow your hair, or a tree twig/branch etc..
Lion can't do it right?....
Whales can't actually do it because they are underwater..
And i doubt any of the other 'Big Cats' can pull this off...
So SURELY the Theropods would be the best candidates for this right? Or they at least have the potential to pull this off?????
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The supersaurus
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I read this book that said that dinosaurs COULD NOT ROAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And why? because it didn't have the vocal cord to do it!
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Ceratodromeus
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Such things would not fossilize, so I don't believe that's accurate. Birds and crocodilians make a wide range of vocalizations, so I'm sure dinosaurs could "roar".
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The supersaurus
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ye, exactly what i was thinking! I guess i shouldn't trust the book, it says Mapusaurus weghed 2 TONS!!!!!
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Can't believe everything you read! Dinosaurs probably made a wide range of sounds, anywhere from high pitched chirps and songs like birds, and the low frequency rumbles like crocodiles do, as Ceratodromeus brought out.
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The supersaurus
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i didn't believe that nonsense, just brought it up if it was real or not!
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One theory says that dinosaur farts could blow away objects.
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MightyKharza
Nov 20 2012, 06:22 AM
I've always thought it steretypical that theropods should roar. I've always imagined them as hissing or singing like whales.
I believe that sauropods are more probable to have been moaning like whales. The roar of theropods like Tyrannosaurus must have been something between the roar of a lion and the hissing of a crocodile. Spinosaurus must have been roaring in an even more serpent-like fashion.
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The supersaurus
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LOL Mesopredator, but probably sauropods. Or big theropods could.
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Oct 30 2015, 06:43 PM
One theory says that dinosaur farts could blow away objects.
Let's try and see if it works! Does anyone have a dinosaur? :D :D
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The supersaurus
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I got one in my bag! But be careful it bites!
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I highly doubt dinosaurs could roar, you don't hear crocodilians or modern dinosaurs roaring now do you? Roaring is something exclusive to carnivora, I highly doubt any archosaur could roar. Just because vocal cords wouldn't fossilize doesn't mean we should go around speculating like that, there is no reason to think that dinosaurs had or needed vocal cords.

For an example of what I mean check out the Saurian Tyrannosaurus sound test:
http://saurian-game.tumblr.com/post/132168102824/it-has-come-to-our-attention-that-some-people-feel
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Oct 31 2015, 01:39 PM
I got one in my bag! But be careful it bites!
But does it fart?

it wants 5 words so it won't be marked as a spam, LOL
stargatedalek
Nov 2 2015, 05:08 AM
I highly doubt dinosaurs could roar, you don't hear crocodilians or modern dinosaurs roaring now do you? Roaring is something exclusive to carnivora, I highly doubt any archosaur could roar. Just because vocal cords wouldn't fossilize doesn't mean we should go around speculating like that, there is no reason to think that dinosaurs had or needed vocal cords.

For an example of what I mean check out the Saurian Tyrannosaurus sound test:
http://saurian-game.tumblr.com/post/132168102824/it-has-come-to-our-attention-that-some-people-feel
Modern dinosaurs DO roar. In different ways. Here's a quite dinosaurian example.
What is ironic is that cassowary is considered to be similar to the dinosaur Oviraptor!



And here's a TERRIFYING example.

Edited by Thalassophoneus, Nov 2 2015, 05:51 AM.
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That's not roaring, roaring in biological terms is impossible for a bird to do.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purr
The "roaring cats" (lion, Panthera leo; tiger, P. tigris; jaguar, P. onca; leopard, P. pardus) have an incompletely ossified hyoid, which according to this theory, enables them to roar but not to purr. However, the snow leopard (Uncia uncia, or P. uncia), as the fifth felid species with an incompletely ossified hyoid, purrs (Hemmer, 1972).

If you want to use "roar" in a vernacular sense than anything loud can roar. Look into the reasoning behind the Saurian sounds, and you will see the thought process towards the sounds they chose. Something guttural like the classic Jurassic Park Tyrannosaurus roar is biologically implausible.

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What is ironic is that cassowary is considered to be similar to the dinosaur Oviraptor!
That's not ironic at all, it's simply you throwing around big words to feel smarter. The only noteworthy similarities between cassowary and oviraptorosaurs are that there are both flightless and likely omnivorous archosaurs. A cassowary crest isn't even made of the same materials as those of oviraptorosaurs. So next time before you start trying to act tough do a little research please.
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Well I wouldn't say they don't roar at all..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6HBHWzxL0Y

But yeah I definitely like the idea of every large theropod not roaring. I love the mental imagery of hiding in a forest while some huge tyrannosaur chases you making a bunch of demented mockingbird noises or something.
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I gave my thoughts on dinosaur sounds (specifically theropods) elsewhere.

http://carnivoraforum.com/single/?p=8745981&t=10293241

Distant phylogenetic relationships=/=similar sounds. And btw, maybe if that Tyrannosaurus were to raise its voice, it could be considered a roar.
Edited by Ausar, Nov 2 2015, 10:00 PM.
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