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Why did mammals take over?
Topic Started: Nov 19 2012, 12:04 PM (5,723 Views)
Jinfengopteryx
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FelinePowah
Nov 22 2012, 06:14 AM
This topic isnt about felines its about mammals and whats the reason felines are going to go extinct? its because of another mammal.
I only wanted to show that being extinct doesn't make an animal inferior. They go extinct because of another mammal, but this mammal is currently killing itself too. You say extinct animals in general must be inferior, so I picked an example of a very endangered animal (tiger). I didn't want to say it to all mammals in general, I know what this topic isn't about. I guess by dinosaurs you also only ment the non avian ones.
Edited by Jinfengopteryx, Nov 22 2012, 06:26 AM.
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That's a stupid comparison either way, as I've yet to see any animal that has adapted to guns, overhunting & poaching!
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And which one has adapted to comets or volcanos?

BTW, an important part of their extincton is also habitat loss (destroying the rainforrests).
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Jinfengopteryx
Nov 22 2012, 06:33 AM
And which one has adapted to comets or volcanos?

BTW, an important part of their extincton is also habitat loss (destroying the rainforrests).
That's faulty logic comparing natural disasters to manmade problems, tho on some remote islands of Hawaii their are Volcanic eruptions & the animals seem well adapted to it, so...
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Please, I want none of this mammalian chauvinism (looking at you FelinePowah). Anyways, judging an animal by superiority has nothing to do with it being extinct or extant. If you judge an organism by that, then you have just called 99.9% of all life inferior. As Scott Sampson said at the end of Dinosaur Revolution, "we think that because we're here right now that we're the best. But that's like criticizing your great-grandparents because they're not here anymore, and you are".
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Jinfengopteryx
Nov 22 2012, 06:33 AM
And which one has adapted to comets or volcanos?

The ones that didnt go extinct!
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Nov 22 2012, 06:58 AM
Jinfengopteryx
Nov 22 2012, 06:33 AM
And which one has adapted to comets or volcanos?

The ones that didnt go extinct!
So a tiger has the adaptations to survive an extinction event like the P-T extinctions?
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Nov 22 2012, 06:58 AM
Jinfengopteryx
Nov 22 2012, 06:33 AM
And which one has adapted to comets or volcanos?

The ones that didnt go extinct!
They weren't adapted to comets or vulcanos, rather to food shortage or other results and believe it or not, dinosaurs did it.
By the way, we are also causing such results (less food), so the animals can adapt to it.

And 221extra, I were talking about Supervolcano, like the ones causing mass extinctions and animals aren't adapted to them, because they are too rare to adapt (same with cosmic objects). They may happen more often than manmade problems, but they are rare enough as many species never witness one. Believe it or not, some don't even survive 0,5 million years. By the way, man aren't the first organisms who bring other organisms to extinction, by overkilling.
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Nov 22 2012, 06:53 AM
Please, I want none of this mammalian chauvinism (looking at you FelinePowah). Anyways, judging an animal by superiority has nothing to do with it being extinct or extant. If you judge an organism by that, then you have just called 99.9% of all life inferior. As Scott Sampson said at the end of Dinosaur Revolution, "we think that because we're here right now that we're the best. But that's like criticizing your great-grandparents because they're not here anymore, and you are".
I yeah sorry because people on here never talk about how amazing and superior dinos are to every animal thats still alive on the this planet rolleyes.

But they aint, they got wiped out and there only living relatives the birds couldnt compete with mammals when the space became vacant for a species to become dominant so birds stuck with flying which comes with as many down sides as it does benifits.

Also look at places where birds were dominate say New Zealand put a few mammals on the island and the birds are getting wiped out, how many Invasive species of birds are wiping out mammals? not many imo but there are loads of mammals thats are wiping out birds, even reptiles are for more destructive then birds.
Edited by FelinePowah, Nov 22 2012, 07:13 AM.
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FelinePowah
Nov 22 2012, 07:07 AM
I yeah sorry because people on here never talk about how amazing and superior dinos are to every animal thats still alive on the this planet rolleyes
This is indeed a bit annoying, but that's no excuse to call them loosers.
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Nov 22 2012, 07:07 AM
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Nov 22 2012, 06:53 AM
Please, I want none of this mammalian chauvinism (looking at you FelinePowah). Anyways, judging an animal by superiority has nothing to do with it being extinct or extant. If you judge an organism by that, then you have just called 99.9% of all life inferior. As Scott Sampson said at the end of Dinosaur Revolution, "we think that because we're here right now that we're the best. But that's like criticizing your great-grandparents because they're not here anymore, and you are".
I yeah sorry because people on here never talk about how amazing and superior dinos are to every animal thats still alive on the this planet rolleyes.

But they aint, they got wiped out and there only living relatives the birds couldnt compete with mammals when the space became vacant for a species to become dominant so birds stuck with flying which comes with as many down sides as it does benifits.

Also look at places where birds were dominate say New Zealand put a few mammals on the island and the birds are getting wiped out, how many Invasive species of birds are wiping out mammals? not many imo but there are loads of mammals thats are wiping out birds, even reptiles are for more destructive then birds.
Since when did I say dinosaurs are the best creatures that ever lived? Oh yeah, that's right, never. If anything, prokaryotes are the most successful. And they were never wiped out, not only are birds descended from dinosaurs, birds ARE dinosaurs. Also, mammals too will one day face the end of their reign. Oh, and also, 25% of the mammals are endangered. 13% of birds are endangered. Clearly, mammals are suffering significantly more.
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And it's really annoying how people blabber false lies about how mammals are the best animals ever. (still looking at you mammal fanboys) Thing is, both kinds of animals are biased in many ways.
Edited by Ausar, Nov 22 2012, 07:23 AM.
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Of all animals, why did the mammals become the most dominant land animals after the extinction of the dinosaurs? Why not crocodiles, lizards, birds, snakes, etc.?


Your saying it as if mammals are not good enought to compete against them.
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Your saying it as if mammals are not good enought to compete against them.

not at all, it's just a question that was raised. If that is the impression you get from a simple question that is rather sad.
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Dec 16 2016, 10:45 AM
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Of all animals, why did the mammals become the most dominant land animals after the extinction of the dinosaurs? Why not crocodiles, lizards, birds, snakes, etc.?


Your saying it as if mammals are not good enought to compete against them.
First of all, I asked this question four years ago. Anything I might have believed then may or may not reflect what I think now.

However, looking at my original post again, I can say that I did not, in fact, mean what you interpreted it as. I can only wonder how the hell you came to construe it that way.
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