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Do you believe animals are equal to humans?
Topic Started: Dec 10 2012, 11:41 AM (15,912 Views)
Vita
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I'm not too sure about that. Earth has proven time and time again that it's pretty good at cleansing itself and recovering. Nuclear weapons wouldn't be comparable to some of the severe trauma earth sas went through in the past (and quite frankly could go through in the future.) If humans could create a similar weapon, I'd like to think we'd be space traveling by then.

I just believe people are a top priority because I'm human and so are they. Even if a person would choose a dog's life over mine, I'd still prefer if they'd lived over a dog. I don't want anyone to die over racial, religious and what have you reasons. We can do all these things to "save" and "help" earth's creatures but at the same time claim we're equal to animals. Don't kid yourself, humans have this god complex for a reason.
Edited by Vita, Dec 13 2012, 01:46 PM.
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I'm not too sure about that. Earth has proven time and time again that it's pretty good at cleansing itself and recovering. Nuclear weapons wouldn't be comparable to some of the severe trauma earth sas went through in the past (and quite frankly could go through in the future.) If humans could create a similar weapon, I'd like to think we'd be space traveling by then.


Well assuming we did nuke ourselves to extinction but didn't completely eradicate all life on earth, that still would have been unnecessarily damaging and is honestly completely inexcusable. But lets drop this topic shall we.

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I just believe people are a top priority because I'm human and so are they.


That's your opinion and I respect that, but why do you think that people are leagues above other thinking and feeling animals?

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We can do all these things to "save" and "help" earth's creatures but at the same time claim we're equal to animals. Don't kid yourself, humans have this god complex for a reason.


Yes and if humans did do this I would concede that they are more important than other animals, but that's just the thing we don't. People like King Jong-Un have the POTENTIAL to help millions of people prosper but until he stops starving ninety percent of his countries people and actually does do legitimately good deeds, I sure as hell won't consider him to be a better man than me, my neighbor, or the spider chilling in my room at the moment.

Same goes for humanity, until the majority of us actually respect and help life around us prosper I will continue to believe that all creatures are born equal and that the deeds of individuals determine our worth.

Edited by Tyrant, Dec 13 2012, 02:04 PM.
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Dec 13 2012, 01:41 PM
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Humans are better than animals because we are smarter and more sentient, thus our lives are worth more. Also humans should obviously support their own species above any other.



So you are better than I because you are smarter and more sentient, thus your life is worth more. Nice. And kindly provide evidence that dolphins torture and murder other dolphins.
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Humans cannot be that clever,afterall we invented the virus Religion and just look at the trouble,death,abuse and misery that has spread through the ages.

Anyway we all have a life cycle,and all humans die just like all animals.
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Dec 13 2012, 01:42 PM


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I just believe people are a top priority because I'm human and so are they.
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I just believe Europeans are a top priority because I'm white and so are they.

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Don't kid yourself, humans have this god complex for a reason.
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Funny, I always thought people with such a complex end up confined to institutions. Ah well.....
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Dec 13 2012, 12:16 PM
The earth was fine before humans and it will be fine long after we're dead and gone. Believe me, earth has been through WAY more damage than humans could ever cause and recovered. Life will go on, just not for us.
What a great way of looking at things rolleyes who cares that we are destroying the planet ill be dead in 60 years so what do i care......
So we should just fuck the earth over cus hey all humans will be dead in a few 1000 years so what does it matter....

The difference between what the earth has gone through in the past and what humans are doing to it now is that humans have the choice to help the planet recover and reverse the effects of all the negatives humans have put on the earth.
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Talking about it isn't going to change anything. The only thing you lot will do is voice your opinion on the matter and continue to enjoy the benefits of modern society. Honestly, that's why I cannot take people with those views seriously. 9 times out of 10 they're not doing a damn thing but preaching from a soap box. Tell me, what have you've done to save the earth, help animals? Don't tell me you've donated money to some organization. Vast majority of them are scams.
Edited by Vita, Dec 14 2012, 02:10 AM.
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Dec 13 2012, 11:44 PM
Humans cannot be that clever,afterall we invented the virus Religion and just look at the trouble,death,abuse and misery that has spread through the ages.

Anyway we all have a life cycle,and all humans die just like all animals.
Religion is clever though. Before the information age it controlled majority of the western masses very effectively. It was so effective it helped control populations who never even heard of the "god" they were being told about.
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This thread is damned disturbing.
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Vita
Dec 14 2012, 02:23 AM
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Dec 13 2012, 11:44 PM
Humans cannot be that clever,afterall we invented the virus Religion and just look at the trouble,death,abuse and misery that has spread through the ages.

Anyway we all have a life cycle,and all humans die just like all animals.
Religion is clever though. Before the information age it controlled majority of the western masses very effectively. It was so effective it helped control populations who never even heard of the "god" they were being told about.
:huh: There's nothing good about Religion, especially when you put it in that context.
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Dec 13 2012, 12:47 PM


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I'd naturally consider my own kind to be of higher value. Whether or not we benefit the planet is irrelevant really.

Only to a callous speciesist totally devoid of compassion. And WE'RE supposed to be the monsters here.
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Dec 14 2012, 02:09 AM
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Tell me, what have you've done to save the earth, help animals? Don't tell me you've donated money to some organization. Vast majority of them are scams.

OK, I won't.
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Dec 14 2012, 03:13 AM
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Dec 14 2012, 02:23 AM
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Dec 13 2012, 11:44 PM
Humans cannot be that clever,afterall we invented the virus Religion and just look at the trouble,death,abuse and misery that has spread through the ages.

Anyway we all have a life cycle,and all humans die just like all animals.
Religion is clever though. Before the information age it controlled majority of the western masses very effectively. It was so effective it helped control populations who never even heard of the "god" they were being told about.
:huh: There's nothing good about Religion, especially when you put it in that context.
There are some benefits to religion. Even as a non-believer I can admit to that, however throughout human history there's always that dark side modern followers refuse to address. I had a friend who's black and decided he didn't want to follow Christianity for the fact that it was faith forced upon his enslaved ancestors. It took a minute for me to understand what he was talking about but when it clicked he was damn sure right. It's not like his west africian ancestors (I'm guessing since that's where majority of blacks in America are from) even knew what the hell Christianity was. That's what I'm referring to when I say religion is a clever aspect of human society.
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Dec 14 2012, 05:04 AM
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Dec 13 2012, 12:47 PM


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I'd naturally consider my own kind to be of higher value. Whether or not we benefit the planet is irrelevant really.

Only to a callous speciesist totally devoid of compassion. And WE'RE supposed to be the monsters here.
If you truly think we are completely equal to animals, being a speciesist is the ONLY way to live, if we truly are as lowly as animals, we should never give two shits about if we are "outcompeting" another species! Do you understand?
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Thanks to modern society, people can afford to care for mother earth and her creatures....all the while replying to this thread on a gadget encased in plastic a.k.a oil. Can't take 'em seriously, I'm sorry!
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