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| Do you believe animals are equal to humans? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Dec 10 2012, 11:41 AM (15,910 Views) | |
| Ausar | Dec 16 2012, 12:33 PM Post #211 |
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Xi-miqa-can! Xi-miqa-can! Xi-miqa-can!
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I never intended it to disturb people. But the thing is, we've already had some other big controversy threads. I'm sorry if I did anything wrong. Edited by Ausar, Dec 16 2012, 01:33 PM.
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| Vita | Dec 17 2012, 02:30 AM Post #212 |
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Cave Canem
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The problem with giving away money to charities is that a lot of them cut too much into the donations and certain people get to pocket the money. The ones you see advertised on t.v often do that. It's better to donate directly to a local shelter. Or at least check into these charities to make sure majority of the donations are going to where it's supposed to be. Animal shelters are always in need of food, blankets and foster homes. Sometimes tossing money at something just isn't enough. |
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| ARM0R | Jul 22 2013, 09:18 AM Post #213 |
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Some people may feel offended now but: Humans are like a pest imo. They multiply uncontrolled, take anything they want to, don´t give anything back and wipe out anything (other humans included) if they don´t immediately get what they desire. Not only do they differ between "important" and "less important" (non human-)animals but they even differ between "important" and "less important" humans based on money, jobs, cars, clothing, origin or freaking friends on facebook. Also they take the independence and freedom of an entire species and turn them into "pets" (domestic dogs, cats, horses etc). If "domesticated animals" don´t obey "human rules" they´ll get murdered after being taken away from their natural families. Even if they obey "our rules" they´ll eventually get abandoned, starve, shot or die another painful death a million times a day worldwide because of humans. First we create "domestic animals" then we don´t care for them or even hate and try to make them suffer for being a particular type of domestic animal (certain dog breeds for instance). Some domestic animals are considered "bloodthirsty monsters" based on "stereotype" or "what they were bred for" regardless of socialisation. If abandoned "domestic animals" adapt to wildlife they´ll eventually be considered a "pest" and get hunted (and wiped out). Only humans have the right to influence an eco system right? Humans are shallow, self-centered, bloodthirsty and by far less intelligent than they claim to be. Then there´s the fact that loads if not any carnivore will eventually go extinct because of human population and a human´s power to decide whether a species has the "right" to exist or not. I´d like to discover and study Thylacines (for instance) in their natural habitat but oh wait, human beings wiped them out after claiming their natural habitat. On top of that they´ll even pick on other humans who don´t think that humans are "more important" or "of higher value" than other animals and/or say something like "you don´t like humans? why not live with (other) animals then?" even though it´s obvious that people are bound to the modern society due to socialisation which goes to show that humans aren´t even as "social" as they claim to be. If one doesn´t support/share the general point of view he/she will end up being considered insane (sometimes). |
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| Honey Badger | Jul 26 2013, 01:13 AM Post #214 |
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Ur ready 4 Freddy, butt f*cked bi Foxy
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So you would rather kill 1000 of an endangered species possibly smarter than us than just one human?! Animals are equal to us.. We may beat them at intelligence but dolphin might take that away and we don't have cheetah's speed, elephant's size and honey badger's fearlessness, they beat us at those and we are animals with our own valuable feature |
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| Ausar | Jul 26 2013, 01:27 AM Post #215 |
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Xi-miqa-can! Xi-miqa-can! Xi-miqa-can!
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I don't even know if Fragillimus is active anymore.
Edited by Ausar, Jul 26 2013, 01:28 AM.
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| Honey Badger | Jul 27 2013, 02:16 AM Post #216 |
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Ur ready 4 Freddy, butt f*cked bi Foxy
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I don'tuh caaaaarre but really? 1000 dolphins?? Instead of one human??? |
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| SpinoInWonderland | Sep 16 2013, 04:24 PM Post #217 |
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The madness has come back...
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And sentience is a feature that all vertebrates and possibly some octopodes have. I know Fragillimus335 is gone, but that will not stop me from correcting a misleading statement. |
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| cidermaster | Sep 19 2013, 09:06 PM Post #218 |
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Omnivore
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Many humans are heavily overrated!!!!!!!! |
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| FelinePowah | Sep 19 2013, 10:28 PM Post #219 |
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Pussy Lover
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Kill a human and whats happends to the world? Nothing, Kill a dog and what happends to the world? nothing So in all fairness we are all equal....living breathing lumps of flesh. |
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| Jinfengopteryx | Sep 20 2013, 01:22 AM Post #220 |
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Aspiring paleontologist, science enthusiast and armchair speculative fiction/evolution writer
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It looks like most people criticizing the idea of humans and animals being equal use arguments like "killing another person is not the same as killing an animal". Of course you can't treat humans in the same way as other animals, because other humans are species members and H. sapiens is a very social species, but that doesn't mean that you have to believe that the species is more worth than other animals.He is not inactive, he got banned. |
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| Ferae | Sep 20 2013, 02:28 AM Post #221 |
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Heterotrophic Organism
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I kinda agree with Arm0r. Also, I usually value life by it's rareness. For exemple, if I had to chose between the life of a single amur leopard and the lifes of a few dozen humans, or even a hundred, I'll would let the cat live. I think the loss of a single rare animal is much more mournable than the death of a lot of people, also because of genetic patrimony, loss of gene pool and etc. Yes, before the question is asked, I do value my family and friends over animals, and maybe I'm hypocritical and amoral, but... Well, it's life. |
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| bitisgabonica | Sep 20 2013, 02:43 AM Post #222 |
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Heterotrophic Organism
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i beleieve in my instinct and thus respect humans more but it doesnt mean i dont care for animals,i love them ,care for them but afterall i am a human animal ! |
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| Caracal82 | Sep 20 2013, 05:45 PM Post #223 |
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Very interesting topic, but here is food for thought. Whose life would you spare? Amur leopard's of which we have few dozens in the world? Or poacher's who right after shooting leopard will shoot you just because you saw him poaching. Very soon I am going to be national park ranger and I know whose life will have more value to me. It's all dependant on situation your in. Just remember that poachers dont know the courtesy to shout "stand or I will shoot" they will kill you on sight. Edited by Caracal82, Sep 20 2013, 05:48 PM.
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| Ausar | Sep 21 2013, 08:37 AM Post #224 |
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Xi-miqa-can! Xi-miqa-can! Xi-miqa-can!
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Perhaps I should have worded that statement better, as I knew that Fragillimus got banned. What I really wanted to know was why he got banned. |
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| thesporerex | Sep 21 2013, 10:36 PM Post #225 |
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If I was in that situation I would grab that fucking gun and blow that little girls fucking brains out. I don't know the girl so I wouldn't fucking care, you would sacrafice the life of 1000's of animals to save some bitch that you don't know and don't care about but you would save her over countless others just because she is human... ![]() |
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