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Do you believe animals are equal to humans?
Topic Started: Dec 10 2012, 11:41 AM (15,923 Views)
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Fragillimus335
Dec 10 2012, 12:17 PM
Not even close, I would slaughter a 1,000 dolphins before killing a single human.
And.....why?
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Dec 10 2012, 11:59 AM
To be honest, I personally do not think animals are equal to us because I value my own species more. Yes I know we are animals too. But think about it, other animals don't care about us do they? If a mother rhinoceros saw that a human baby and her own baby was being attacked by a lion, who do think she's going to save? Her own offspring of course. Hopefully someone will save the human baby too. It's not speciesism, it's just that we care about our own species more than others, just like all other animals. It's just something in us humans that hasn't changed since we were just Australopithecus. I'm not saying you shouldn't mind other species. (You should care for them too). I'm saying there's nothing wrong with valuing your own species the most.
It's instinct. Put you in that same situation, now tell me with a straight face you'd save the Rhino over your baby. We are basically equal.
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for all of those who have said humans and animals are all equal, tell me do you cry or feel sad whenever you smack a fly or mosquito, cause you'd probably cry if you killed a human, just cuz he/she annoyed you.
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Dec 10 2012, 05:59 PM
for all of those who have said humans and animals are all equal, tell me do you cry or feel sad whenever you smack a fly or mosquito, cause you'd probably cry if you killed a human, just cuz he/she annoyed you.
That is an irrelevant situation as mosquitos & flys are a danger to your health.
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Dec 10 2012, 06:04 PM
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Dec 10 2012, 05:59 PM
for all of those who have said humans and animals are all equal, tell me do you cry or feel sad whenever you smack a fly or mosquito, cause you'd probably cry if you killed a human, just cuz he/she annoyed you.
That is an irrelevant situation as mosquitos & flys are a danger to your health.
serioursly a normal fly is by no means a danger, it annoys you that's all, mosquitos might make you itch a bit, but uæess they carry malaria arent dangerous. So whack a fly is like killing a human if animals and humans are equal, because truth is no one sees flies as equals, despite what you say.
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Dec 10 2012, 06:06 PM
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Dec 10 2012, 05:59 PM
for all of those who have said humans and animals are all equal, tell me do you cry or feel sad whenever you smack a fly or mosquito, cause you'd probably cry if you killed a human, just cuz he/she annoyed you.
That is an irrelevant situation as mosquitos & flys are a danger to your health.
serioursly a normal fly is by no means a danger, it annoys you that's all, mosquitos might make you itch a bit, but uæess they carry malaria arent dangerous. So whack a fly is like killing a human if animals and humans are equal, because truth is no one sees flies as equals, despite what you say.
Still, they can carry danger and tell me, if you saw something small that could harm you as they could carry diseases what would you do? I'd whack it away.
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Dec 10 2012, 06:23 PM
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Dec 10 2012, 05:59 PM
for all of those who have said humans and animals are all equal, tell me do you cry or feel sad whenever you smack a fly or mosquito, cause you'd probably cry if you killed a human, just cuz he/she annoyed you.
That is an irrelevant situation as mosquitos & flys are a danger to your health.
serioursly a normal fly is by no means a danger, it annoys you that's all, mosquitos might make you itch a bit, but uæess they carry malaria arent dangerous. So whack a fly is like killing a human if animals and humans are equal, because truth is no one sees flies as equals, despite what you say.
Still, they can carry danger and tell me, if you saw something small that could harm you as they could carry diseases what would you do? I'd whack it away.
You're not seriously trying to tell me you kill normal flies, because they have a tiny chance of carrying diseases most people kill them simply because they are annoying, also if a sick guy came over and sat next to you, would you kill him? I sure as hell wouldn't.
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Dec 10 2012, 05:59 PM
for all of those who have said humans and animals are all equal, tell me do you cry or feel sad whenever you smack a fly or mosquito, cause you'd probably cry if you killed a human, just cuz he/she annoyed you.
That is an irrelevant situation as mosquitos & flys are a danger to your health.
serioursly a normal fly is by no means a danger, it annoys you that's all, mosquitos might make you itch a bit, but uæess they carry malaria arent dangerous. So whack a fly is like killing a human if animals and humans are equal, because truth is no one sees flies as equals, despite what you say.
Still, they can carry danger and tell me, if you saw something small that could harm you as they could carry diseases what would you do? I'd whack it away.
You're not seriously trying to tell me you kill normal flies, because they have a tiny chance of carrying diseases most people kill them simply because they are annoying, also if a sick guy came over and sat next to you, would you kill him? I sure as hell wouldn't.
Well, a fly and a human aren't really comparable. They literally annoy the hell out of every living thing & anyway there is a LOT of flies so they won't go extinct.
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Dec 10 2012, 05:59 PM
for all of those who have said humans and animals are all equal, tell me do you cry or feel sad whenever you smack a fly or mosquito, cause you'd probably cry if you killed a human, just cuz he/she annoyed you.
That is an irrelevant situation as mosquitos & flys are a danger to your health.
serioursly a normal fly is by no means a danger, it annoys you that's all, mosquitos might make you itch a bit, but uæess they carry malaria arent dangerous. So whack a fly is like killing a human if animals and humans are equal, because truth is no one sees flies as equals, despite what you say.
Still, they can carry danger and tell me, if you saw something small that could harm you as they could carry diseases what would you do? I'd whack it away.
You're not seriously trying to tell me you kill normal flies, because they have a tiny chance of carrying diseases most people kill them simply because they are annoying, also if a sick guy came over and sat next to you, would you kill him? I sure as hell wouldn't.
Well, a fly and a human aren't really comparable. They literally annoy the hell out of every living thing & anyway there is a LOT of flies so they won't go extinct.
You never meet a person that annoys you so much? If not then you're very lucky. And there aren't a lot of humans rolleyes ? They aren't likely to go extinct right away either
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Dec 10 2012, 05:59 PM
for all of those who have said humans and animals are all equal, tell me do you cry or feel sad whenever you smack a fly or mosquito, cause you'd probably cry if you killed a human, just cuz he/she annoyed you.
That is an irrelevant situation as mosquitos & flys are a danger to your health.
serioursly a normal fly is by no means a danger, it annoys you that's all, mosquitos might make you itch a bit, but uæess they carry malaria arent dangerous. So whack a fly is like killing a human if animals and humans are equal, because truth is no one sees flies as equals, despite what you say.
Still, they can carry danger and tell me, if you saw something small that could harm you as they could carry diseases what would you do? I'd whack it away.
You're not seriously trying to tell me you kill normal flies, because they have a tiny chance of carrying diseases most people kill them simply because they are annoying, also if a sick guy came over and sat next to you, would you kill him? I sure as hell wouldn't.
Well, a fly and a human aren't really comparable. They literally annoy the hell out of every living thing & anyway there is a LOT of flies so they won't go extinct.
You never meet a person that annoys you so much? If not then you're very lucky. And there aren't a lot of humans rolleyes ? They aren't likely to go extinct right away either
Like I said, you can't compare flies to humans.
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Dec 10 2012, 05:59 PM
for all of those who have said humans and animals are all equal, tell me do you cry or feel sad whenever you smack a fly or mosquito, cause you'd probably cry if you killed a human, just cuz he/she annoyed you.
That is an irrelevant situation as mosquitos & flys are a danger to your health.
serioursly a normal fly is by no means a danger, it annoys you that's all, mosquitos might make you itch a bit, but uæess they carry malaria arent dangerous. So whack a fly is like killing a human if animals and humans are equal, because truth is no one sees flies as equals, despite what you say.
Still, they can carry danger and tell me, if you saw something small that could harm you as they could carry diseases what would you do? I'd whack it away.
You're not seriously trying to tell me you kill normal flies, because they have a tiny chance of carrying diseases most people kill them simply because they are annoying, also if a sick guy came over and sat next to you, would you kill him? I sure as hell wouldn't.
Well, a fly and a human aren't really comparable. They literally annoy the hell out of every living thing & anyway there is a LOT of flies so they won't go extinct.
You never meet a person that annoys you so much? If not then you're very lucky. And there aren't a lot of humans rolleyes ? They aren't likely to go extinct right away either
Like I said, you can't compare flies to humans.
Well isn't that the whole point of this thread :huh: comparing animals to humans.
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Take all so called "vermin" and you kill them all because they are either a threat to your health or simply an annoyance, but would we do the same to sick humans? Most likely not.
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Dec 10 2012, 05:57 PM
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Dec 10 2012, 11:59 AM
To be honest, I personally do not think animals are equal to us because I value my own species more. Yes I know we are animals too. But think about it, other animals don't care about us do they? If a mother rhinoceros saw that a human baby and her own baby was being attacked by a lion, who do think she's going to save? Her own offspring of course. Hopefully someone will save the human baby too. It's not speciesism, it's just that we care about our own species more than others, just like all other animals. It's just something in us humans that hasn't changed since we were just Australopithecus. I'm not saying you shouldn't mind other species. (You should care for them too). I'm saying there's nothing wrong with valuing your own species the most.
It's instinct. Put you in that same situation, now tell me with a straight face you'd save the Rhino over your baby. We are basically equal.
I can't really answer that because well... I'm not a mother. But you're telling me animals have an excuse because it's instinct and we can actually think. In my honest opinion, that's not a very good excuse.
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Dec 10 2012, 02:30 PM
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Dec 10 2012, 11:59 AM
To be honest, I personally do not think animals are equal to us because I value my own species more. Yes I know we are animals too. But think about it, other animals don't care about us do they? If a mother rhinoceros saw that a human baby and her own baby was being attacked by a lion, who do think she's going to save? Her own offspring of course. Hopefully someone will save the human baby too. It's not speciesism, it's just that we care about our own species more than others, just like all other animals. It's just something in us humans that hasn't changed since we were just Australopithecus.
In your posts you are taking an us and them approach. There is nothing unique about humans other than our large brains. We are just as important as any other animal. I would save a human before I saved a mouse, but that is merely preservation of species, something ingrained in us through evolution over the course of millions of years.
Exactly my point.
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Dec 10 2012, 05:59 PM
for all of those who have said humans and animals are all equal, tell me do you cry or feel sad whenever you smack a fly or mosquito, cause you'd probably cry if you killed a human, just cuz he/she annoyed you.
That is an irrelevant situation as mosquitos & flys are a danger to your health.
serioursly a normal fly is by no means a danger, it annoys you that's all, mosquitos might make you itch a bit, but uæess they carry malaria arent dangerous. So whack a fly is like killing a human if animals and humans are equal, because truth is no one sees flies as equals, despite what you say.
Still, they can carry danger and tell me, if you saw something small that could harm you as they could carry diseases what would you do? I'd whack it away.
You're not seriously trying to tell me you kill normal flies, because they have a tiny chance of carrying diseases most people kill them simply because they are annoying, also if a sick guy came over and sat next to you, would you kill him? I sure as hell wouldn't.
Flies throw up and shit everywhere they land. Nuff said. Wild animals act the same way.
Edited by Black Ice, Dec 10 2012, 09:39 PM.
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