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Do you believe animals are equal to humans?
Topic Started: Dec 10 2012, 11:41 AM (15,922 Views)
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for all of those who have said humans and animals are all equal, tell me do you cry or feel sad whenever you smack a fly or mosquito, cause you'd probably cry if you killed a human, just cuz he/she annoyed you.
That is an irrelevant situation as mosquitos & flys are a danger to your health.
serioursly a normal fly is by no means a danger, it annoys you that's all, mosquitos might make you itch a bit, but uæess they carry malaria arent dangerous. So whack a fly is like killing a human if animals and humans are equal, because truth is no one sees flies as equals, despite what you say.
Still, they can carry danger and tell me, if you saw something small that could harm you as they could carry diseases what would you do? I'd whack it away.
You're not seriously trying to tell me you kill normal flies, because they have a tiny chance of carrying diseases most people kill them simply because they are annoying, also if a sick guy came over and sat next to you, would you kill him? I sure as hell wouldn't.
Flies throw up and shit everywhere they land. Nuff said.
while that is kind of true (at least the vomiting part) i still doubt you would kill a human who did that, you may beat him up pretty badly, but not kill him.
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for all of those who have said humans and animals are all equal, tell me do you cry or feel sad whenever you smack a fly or mosquito, cause you'd probably cry if you killed a human, just cuz he/she annoyed you.
That is an irrelevant situation as mosquitos & flys are a danger to your health.
serioursly a normal fly is by no means a danger, it annoys you that's all, mosquitos might make you itch a bit, but uæess they carry malaria arent dangerous. So whack a fly is like killing a human if animals and humans are equal, because truth is no one sees flies as equals, despite what you say.
Still, they can carry danger and tell me, if you saw something small that could harm you as they could carry diseases what would you do? I'd whack it away.
You're not seriously trying to tell me you kill normal flies, because they have a tiny chance of carrying diseases most people kill them simply because they are annoying, also if a sick guy came over and sat next to you, would you kill him? I sure as hell wouldn't.
Flies throw up and shit everywhere they land. Nuff said.
while that is kind of true (at least the vomiting part) i still doubt you would kill a human who did that, you may beat him up pretty badly, but not kill him.
Mainly because since humans lack weapons it's going to take a LOT of time and work and me going to jail if I kill em? Too much work for my lazy self.
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for all of those who have said humans and animals are all equal, tell me do you cry or feel sad whenever you smack a fly or mosquito, cause you'd probably cry if you killed a human, just cuz he/she annoyed you.
That is an irrelevant situation as mosquitos & flys are a danger to your health.
serioursly a normal fly is by no means a danger, it annoys you that's all, mosquitos might make you itch a bit, but uæess they carry malaria arent dangerous. So whack a fly is like killing a human if animals and humans are equal, because truth is no one sees flies as equals, despite what you say.
Still, they can carry danger and tell me, if you saw something small that could harm you as they could carry diseases what would you do? I'd whack it away.
You're not seriously trying to tell me you kill normal flies, because they have a tiny chance of carrying diseases most people kill them simply because they are annoying, also if a sick guy came over and sat next to you, would you kill him? I sure as hell wouldn't.
Flies throw up and shit everywhere they land. Nuff said.
while that is kind of true (at least the vomiting part) i still doubt you would kill a human who did that, you may beat him up pretty badly, but not kill him.
Mainly because since humans lack weapons it's going to take a LOT of time and work and me going to jail if I kill em? Too much work for my lazy self.
knives and other things make up for the lack of weaponry, as for the jail i have no other counter-argument than killing a human would make you feel like shit for years(or most people at least), whereas killing a cockroach, fly, ant or whatever might make you feel bad for an hour at max.
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Dec 10 2012, 05:59 PM
for all of those who have said humans and animals are all equal, tell me do you cry or feel sad whenever you smack a fly or mosquito, cause you'd probably cry if you killed a human, just cuz he/she annoyed you.
That is an irrelevant situation as mosquitos & flys are a danger to your health.
serioursly a normal fly is by no means a danger, it annoys you that's all, mosquitos might make you itch a bit, but uæess they carry malaria arent dangerous. So whack a fly is like killing a human if animals and humans are equal, because truth is no one sees flies as equals, despite what you say.
Still, they can carry danger and tell me, if you saw something small that could harm you as they could carry diseases what would you do? I'd whack it away.
You're not seriously trying to tell me you kill normal flies, because they have a tiny chance of carrying diseases most people kill them simply because they are annoying, also if a sick guy came over and sat next to you, would you kill him? I sure as hell wouldn't.
Flies throw up and shit everywhere they land. Nuff said.
while that is kind of true (at least the vomiting part) i still doubt you would kill a human who did that, you may beat him up pretty badly, but not kill him.
Mainly because since humans lack weapons it's going to take a LOT of time and work and me going to jail if I kill em? Too much work for my lazy self.
knives and other things make up for the lack of weaponry, as for the jail i have no other counter-argument than killing a human would make you feel like shit for years(or most people at least), whereas killing a cockroach, fly, ant or whatever might make you feel bad for an hour at max.
How often will you see yourself by a knife when someone throws up on you? I've met guys from jail who laugh when you ask them if they liked to kill.
Edited by Black Ice, Dec 10 2012, 09:50 PM.
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Dec 10 2012, 05:59 PM
for all of those who have said humans and animals are all equal, tell me do you cry or feel sad whenever you smack a fly or mosquito, cause you'd probably cry if you killed a human, just cuz he/she annoyed you.
That is an irrelevant situation as mosquitos & flys are a danger to your health.
serioursly a normal fly is by no means a danger, it annoys you that's all, mosquitos might make you itch a bit, but uæess they carry malaria arent dangerous. So whack a fly is like killing a human if animals and humans are equal, because truth is no one sees flies as equals, despite what you say.
Still, they can carry danger and tell me, if you saw something small that could harm you as they could carry diseases what would you do? I'd whack it away.
You're not seriously trying to tell me you kill normal flies, because they have a tiny chance of carrying diseases most people kill them simply because they are annoying, also if a sick guy came over and sat next to you, would you kill him? I sure as hell wouldn't.
Flies throw up and shit everywhere they land. Nuff said.
while that is kind of true (at least the vomiting part) i still doubt you would kill a human who did that, you may beat him up pretty badly, but not kill him.
Mainly because since humans lack weapons it's going to take a LOT of time and work and me going to jail if I kill em? Too much work for my lazy self.
knives and other things make up for the lack of weaponry, as for the jail i have no other counter-argument than killing a human would make you feel like shit for years(or most people at least), whereas killing a cockroach, fly, ant or whatever might make you feel bad for an hour at max.
How often will you see yourself by a knife when someone throws up on you?
well depends if you're home or not, but if there was a guy in your house throwing up on you, would you grab a knife and kill him? I wouldn't.
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for all of those who have said humans and animals are all equal, tell me do you cry or feel sad whenever you smack a fly or mosquito, cause you'd probably cry if you killed a human, just cuz he/she annoyed you.
That is an irrelevant situation as mosquitos & flys are a danger to your health.
serioursly a normal fly is by no means a danger, it annoys you that's all, mosquitos might make you itch a bit, but uæess they carry malaria arent dangerous. So whack a fly is like killing a human if animals and humans are equal, because truth is no one sees flies as equals, despite what you say.
Still, they can carry danger and tell me, if you saw something small that could harm you as they could carry diseases what would you do? I'd whack it away.
You're not seriously trying to tell me you kill normal flies, because they have a tiny chance of carrying diseases most people kill them simply because they are annoying, also if a sick guy came over and sat next to you, would you kill him? I sure as hell wouldn't.
Flies throw up and shit everywhere they land. Nuff said.
while that is kind of true (at least the vomiting part) i still doubt you would kill a human who did that, you may beat him up pretty badly, but not kill him.
Mainly because since humans lack weapons it's going to take a LOT of time and work and me going to jail if I kill em? Too much work for my lazy self.
knives and other things make up for the lack of weaponry, as for the jail i have no other counter-argument than killing a human would make you feel like shit for years(or most people at least), whereas killing a cockroach, fly, ant or whatever might make you feel bad for an hour at max.
How often will you see yourself by a knife when someone throws up on you?
well depends if you're home or not, but if there was a guy in your house throwing up on you, would you grab a knife and kill him? I wouldn't.
If there were no laws............. :X
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for all of those who have said humans and animals are all equal, tell me do you cry or feel sad whenever you smack a fly or mosquito, cause you'd probably cry if you killed a human, just cuz he/she annoyed you.
That is an irrelevant situation as mosquitos & flys are a danger to your health.
serioursly a normal fly is by no means a danger, it annoys you that's all, mosquitos might make you itch a bit, but uæess they carry malaria arent dangerous. So whack a fly is like killing a human if animals and humans are equal, because truth is no one sees flies as equals, despite what you say.
Still, they can carry danger and tell me, if you saw something small that could harm you as they could carry diseases what would you do? I'd whack it away.
You're not seriously trying to tell me you kill normal flies, because they have a tiny chance of carrying diseases most people kill them simply because they are annoying, also if a sick guy came over and sat next to you, would you kill him? I sure as hell wouldn't.
Flies throw up and shit everywhere they land. Nuff said.
while that is kind of true (at least the vomiting part) i still doubt you would kill a human who did that, you may beat him up pretty badly, but not kill him.
Mainly because since humans lack weapons it's going to take a LOT of time and work and me going to jail if I kill em? Too much work for my lazy self.
knives and other things make up for the lack of weaponry, as for the jail i have no other counter-argument than killing a human would make you feel like shit for years(or most people at least), whereas killing a cockroach, fly, ant or whatever might make you feel bad for an hour at max.
How often will you see yourself by a knife when someone throws up on you?
well depends if you're home or not, but if there was a guy in your house throwing up on you, would you grab a knife and kill him? I wouldn't.
If there were no laws............. :X
:huh:  :o . most People would most likely give out some beating or call the cops, but not kill the poor guy. Anyways my point is we tend to be more ashamed of killing our own species than other species, and do definitely not think of all animals as the same.
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"...all other animals" do not care about their own species. If your hypothetical mother rhino saw a lion attacking another rhino's calf I very much doubt if she would intervene. Solitary animals care about themselves, social ones extend that care to their family/pack/herd members, none give a stuff about their species as a whole.
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What if the 1,000 dolphins you would be willing to murder belonged to an endangered species and amounted to 90% of the total world population?
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Goodonya Tyrant. Live long and prosper, the earth needs people like you.
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I think the point is humans have already slaughtered millions of fellow humans through history,says alot really!

Animals have just as much right to be on the planet as us,and also look at the damage we do to everything!!
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We are equal. We complain about animals eating their crops, yet we steal their land and destroy their nests, we made many animals extinct already for no reason other than unneeded meat and sport. Silk worms have given us silk and the Chinese repay them by cooking and eating them, bees give us honey and we burn their hives and kill their relatives.

Don't even get me started on the people who kill animals (Leopards, Minks, Wolves, Jaguars) for their fur...
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Dec 11 2012, 12:10 AM
What if the 1,000 dolphins you would be willing to murder belonged to an endangered species and amounted to 90% of the total world population?
I would, of course, still kill the dolphins. I doubt anyone on this forum would actually chose to kill another human being instead of some dolphins, if yo do, you got some evolving left to do.... Everyone who says they respect animals just as much as people is either full of shit or just saying it for shock value.

I wouldn't be happy about killing the dolphins, but I would do it to save a human life.
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titanoceratops
Dec 11 2012, 12:00 AM
"...all other animals" do not care about their own species. If your hypothetical mother rhino saw a lion attacking another rhino's calf I very much doubt if she would intervene. Solitary animals care about themselves, social ones extend that care to their family/pack/herd members, none give a stuff about their species as a whole.
Yes, but if they had to choose which species they valued most, they would most likely pick their own species.
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titanoceratops
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What if the 1,000 dolphins you would be willing to murder belonged to an endangered species and amounted to 90% of the total world population?
I would, of course, still kill the dolphins. I doubt anyone on this forum would actually chose to kill another human being instead of some dolphins, if yo do, you got some evolving left to do.... Everyone who says they respect animals just as much as people is either full of shit or just saying it for shock value. <br /><br />I wouldn't be happy about killing the dolphins, but I would do it to save a human life.
Me too.
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