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Do you believe animals are equal to humans?
Topic Started: Dec 10 2012, 11:41 AM (15,921 Views)
Ausar
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You know what confuses me? We're animals too, so why don't animal rights groups like PETA or HSUS help save the millions of people that are homeless, starving, or sick? Why don't they have human welfare as one of their issues like they do with animal abuse?
Edited by Ausar, Dec 11 2012, 05:36 AM.
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Fragillimus335
Dec 11 2012, 05:26 AM
titanoceratops
Dec 11 2012, 12:10 AM
What if the 1,000 dolphins you would be willing to murder belonged to an endangered species and amounted to 90% of the total world population?
I would, of course, still kill the dolphins. I doubt anyone on this forum would actually chose to kill another human being instead of some dolphins, if yo do, you got some evolving left to do.... Everyone who says they respect animals just as much as people is either full of shit or just saying it for shock value.

I wouldn't be happy about killing the dolphins, but I would do it to save a human life.
Oh my god.
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Fragillimus335
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Dec 11 2012, 05:33 AM
Fragillimus335
Dec 11 2012, 05:26 AM
titanoceratops
Dec 11 2012, 12:10 AM
What if the 1,000 dolphins you would be willing to murder belonged to an endangered species and amounted to 90% of the total world population?
I would, of course, still kill the dolphins. I doubt anyone on this forum would actually chose to kill another human being instead of some dolphins, if yo do, you got some evolving left to do.... Everyone who says they respect animals just as much as people is either full of shit or just saying it for shock value.

I wouldn't be happy about killing the dolphins, but I would do it to save a human life.
Oh my god.
Your god was pretty keen on animal sacrifices... :D No offense...it's true.

What you're saying is that you would pick up a gun, and blow a little girl's brains out to save a pod of dolphins.... You need to think that through a little better.
Edited by Fragillimus335, Dec 11 2012, 05:53 AM.
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Fragillimus335
Dec 11 2012, 05:26 AM
titanoceratops
Dec 11 2012, 12:10 AM
What if the 1,000 dolphins you would be willing to murder belonged to an endangered species and amounted to 90% of the total world population?
I would, of course, still kill the dolphins. I doubt anyone on this forum would actually chose to kill another human being instead of some dolphins, if yo do, you got some evolving left to do.... Everyone who says they respect animals just as much as people is either full of shit or just saying it for shock value.

I wouldn't be happy about killing the dolphins, but I would do it to save a human life.

Yeah and then that human would probably stab you in the back and rob you of your wallet!

What the hell is so precious about human life? humans kill each other all the time over nothing, you dont see animals doing that and the fact humans breed like rabbits and spread more disease then rats, you would be doing the planet, animals and the humans a service if you killed about 2 billion humans! that still leaves 5 billion!
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Dec 11 2012, 05:52 AM
Fragillimus335
Dec 11 2012, 05:26 AM
titanoceratops
Dec 11 2012, 12:10 AM
What if the 1,000 dolphins you would be willing to murder belonged to an endangered species and amounted to 90% of the total world population?
I would, of course, still kill the dolphins. I doubt anyone on this forum would actually chose to kill another human being instead of some dolphins, if yo do, you got some evolving left to do.... Everyone who says they respect animals just as much as people is either full of shit or just saying it for shock value.

I wouldn't be happy about killing the dolphins, but I would do it to save a human life.

Yeah and then that human would probably stab you in the back and rob you of your wallet!

What the hell is so precious about human life? humans kill each other all the time over nothing, you dont see animals doing that and the fact humans breed like rabbits and spread more disease then rats, you would be doing the planet, animals and the humans a service if you killed about 2 billion humans! that still leaves 5 billion!
Perhaps the one human I am refusing to kill is you, idiot. Read the above post...
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Ausar
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Dec 11 2012, 05:52 AM
Fragillimus335
Dec 11 2012, 05:26 AM
titanoceratops
Dec 11 2012, 12:10 AM
What if the 1,000 dolphins you would be willing to murder belonged to an endangered species and amounted to 90% of the total world population?
I would, of course, still kill the dolphins. I doubt anyone on this forum would actually chose to kill another human being instead of some dolphins, if yo do, you got some evolving left to do.... Everyone who says they respect animals just as much as people is either full of shit or just saying it for shock value.

I wouldn't be happy about killing the dolphins, but I would do it to save a human life.

Yeah and then that human would probably stab you in the back and rob you of your wallet!

What the hell is so precious about human life? humans kill each other all the time over nothing, you dont see animals doing that and the fact humans breed like rabbits and spread more disease then rats, you would be doing the planet, animals and the humans a service if you killed about 2 billion humans! that still leaves 5 billion!
Those dolphins can kill you too. And can you legitimately make friends with a dolphin? Can you talk to a dolphin? No. But you can do so with a human.
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Fragillimus335
Dec 11 2012, 05:26 AM
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titanoceratops
Dec 11 2012, 12:10 AM
What if the 1,000 dolphins you would be willing to murder belonged to an endangered species and amounted to 90% of the total world population?
I would, of course, still kill the dolphins. I doubt anyone on this forum would actually chose to kill another human being instead of some dolphins, if yo do, you got some evolving left to do.... Everyone who says they respect animals just as much as people is either full of shit or just saying it for shock value.

I wouldn't be happy about killing the dolphins, but I would do it to save a human life.

Ah. Another safe-behind-the-keyboard hero. 'Nuff said, thanks for proving my point.
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Dec 11 2012, 05:29 AM
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titanoceratops
Dec 11 2012, 12:00 AM
"...all other animals" do not care about their own species. If your hypothetical mother rhino saw a lion attacking another rhino's calf I very much doubt if she would intervene. Solitary animals care about themselves, social ones extend that care to their family/pack/herd members, none give a stuff about their species as a whole.
Yes, but if they had to choose which species they valued most, they would most likely pick their own species.

Given that they can't make such a choice, this is rather like speculating about the number of angels capable of dancing on the head of a pin.
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Congratulations FelinePowah on your receipt of such a courteous response from that sterling example of manners personified, the one and (hopefully) only Fragillimus335.
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Dec 11 2012, 06:15 AM
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Dec 11 2012, 05:29 AM
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titanoceratops
Dec 11 2012, 12:00 AM
"...all other animals" do not care about their own species. If your hypothetical mother rhino saw a lion attacking another rhino's calf I very much doubt if she would intervene. Solitary animals care about themselves, social ones extend that care to their family/pack/herd members, none give a stuff about their species as a whole.
Yes, but if they had to choose which species they valued most, they would most likely pick their own species.

Given that they can't make such a choice, this is rather like speculating about the number of angels capable of dancing on the head of a pin.
I was particularly referring to humans.
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Dec 11 2012, 05:56 AM
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Those dolphins can kill you too. And can you legitimately make friends with a dolphin? Can you talk to a dolphin? No. But you can do so with a human.

Humans can kill you too, some of them would be more ready and willing to do so than any dolphin. Never tried to make friends with, or talk to, a dolphin but have done so with a human. All too frequently to my disadvantage.
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So does that automatically mean you would be better off with a dolphin or a dog or a cat? IMO not really. You still can't really talk to them, make friends with them or anything else you can do with a fellow human being. There's a reason why people make friends; that's so they don't talk to themselves, inanimate objects, or animals that can't respond to you, but a fellow human can. If you were to spend a long time talking to an animal or inanimate object you would eventually go insane.
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I know people eho would kill their mom rather than their dog.......
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Rashido
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Family pets can mean just as much as a person. If someone literally offered me a billion dollars to abandon my dog, I would spit in their face. Relationships transcend material objects, at least for me.
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titanoceratops
Dec 11 2012, 06:25 AM
Congratulations FelinePowah on your receipt of such a courteous response from that sterling example of manners personified, the one and (hopefully) only Fragillimus335.
Why thank you good sir, even though you are not the most pleasant person, or the most emphatic, I would still save you over the dolphins, that is what being sentient is all about.
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