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Do you believe animals are equal to humans?
Topic Started: Dec 10 2012, 11:41 AM (15,919 Views)
The Unrepentant Misanthrope
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titanoceratops
Dec 11 2012, 06:25 AM
Congratulations FelinePowah on your receipt of such a courteous response from that sterling example of manners personified, the one and (hopefully) only Fragillimus335.
Why thank you good sir, even though you are not the most pleasant person, or the most emphatic, I would still save you over the dolphins, that is what being sentient is all about.
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Not pleasant at all (tho' I would never refer to anyone as sht and only reluctantly as an idiot) but definitely emphatic. If you were to save me rather than the dolphins I would curse you rather than thank you, that is what being compassionate is all about.Totally OT, how about doing a colour rendition of your excellent Three Horned King?
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Rashido
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Fragillimus335
Dec 11 2012, 07:46 AM
Black Ice
Dec 11 2012, 07:03 AM
Rashido
Dec 11 2012, 06:58 AM
Family pets can mean just as much as a person. If someone literally offered me a billion dollars to abandon my dog, I would spit in their face. Relationships transcend material objects, at least for me.
Same here, I'd kill a human before even thinking of killing my husky.
You guys are sociopathic monsters, (I guess a am on an internet forum)...but I truly presume you would think differently if it actually came to that.
I never said that I would kill someone. I merely stated that I value relationships (at least good ones) over material possessions such as money. However, as Tyrant said, it depends on the individual.
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The Unrepentant Misanthrope
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Gotta pack it in for a while folks, the sarcodiosis (spelling?) is giving me Old Harry.
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Ausar
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I wouldn't actually kill someone either, but if I still had them, I'd care about my 2 pets more than an average individual.
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Fragillimus335
Dec 11 2012, 07:46 AM
Black Ice
Dec 11 2012, 07:03 AM
Rashido
Dec 11 2012, 06:58 AM
Family pets can mean just as much as a person. If someone literally offered me a billion dollars to abandon my dog, I would spit in their face. Relationships transcend material objects, at least for me.
Same here, I'd kill a human before even thinking of killing my husky.
You guys are sociopathic monsters, (I guess a am on an internet forum)...but I truly presume you would think differently if it actually came to that.
I honestly don't care how my reply is in your view. But I'm serious about that post.
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Fragillimus335
Dec 10 2012, 12:17 PM
Not even close, I would slaughter a 1,000 dolphins before killing a single human.
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Dec 10 2012, 01:56 PM
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Not even close, I would slaughter a 1,000 dolphins before killing a single human.


You do realize that a dolphin is about as intelligent as young children right? From the average persons perspective I don't see why you deem humans so much higher in value than humans when they are almost as intelligent as us.

Personally I believe that it be incredibly arrogant for mere mortals to judge the value of another living creature, and with the exception of family members,close friends, pets, and other people that positively effect my life; animals are all equal in value.


Well fragillmus' quote was a bit drastic and something hard to morally weigh but don't tell me you'd more readily kill a human with a family than a dog with some pups
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Black Ice
Dec 11 2012, 08:13 AM
Fragillimus335
Dec 11 2012, 07:46 AM
Black Ice
Dec 11 2012, 07:03 AM
Rashido
Dec 11 2012, 06:58 AM
Family pets can mean just as much as a person. If someone literally offered me a billion dollars to abandon my dog, I would spit in their face. Relationships transcend material objects, at least for me.
Same here, I'd kill a human before even thinking of killing my husky.
You guys are sociopathic monsters, (I guess a am on an internet forum)...but I truly presume you would think differently if it actually came to that.
I honestly don't care how my reply is in your view. But I'm serious about that post.
What on Earth??? I realize your dog is of great value to you and what not but you'd rather kill a man with a family who genuinely strived to do good, was a law abiding citizen, organ donor, and volunteered his free time as a motivational speaker for those suffering with terminal illness before you killed your dog? Wow.......................I understand you love your dog but the humanity of it..................
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IMO I think animals should be given certain unalienable rights and what not to prevent them from being abused but when it comes down to it I have to say I lean towards valuing human life a bit more. don't get me wrong I'd rather have every serial killer, oppressive dictator, or victoriously abusive husband killed instead of several hundred African wild dogs, but I can't be the judge of people.
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Dec 11 2012, 10:14 AM
Black Ice
Dec 11 2012, 08:13 AM
Fragillimus335
Dec 11 2012, 07:46 AM
Black Ice
Dec 11 2012, 07:03 AM
Rashido
Dec 11 2012, 06:58 AM
Family pets can mean just as much as a person. If someone literally offered me a billion dollars to abandon my dog, I would spit in their face. Relationships transcend material objects, at least for me.
Same here, I'd kill a human before even thinking of killing my husky.
You guys are sociopathic monsters, (I guess a am on an internet forum)...but I truly presume you would think differently if it actually came to that.
I honestly don't care how my reply is in your view. But I'm serious about that post.
What on Earth??? I realize your dog is of great value to you and what not but you'd rather kill a man with a family who genuinely strived to do good, was a law abiding citizen, organ donor, and volunteered his free time as a motivational speaker for those suffering with terminal illness before you killed your dog? Wow.......................I understand you love your dog but the humanity of it..................
Why he can't be a criminal?
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Dec 11 2012, 10:25 AM
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Dec 11 2012, 10:14 AM
Black Ice
Dec 11 2012, 08:13 AM
Fragillimus335
Dec 11 2012, 07:46 AM
Black Ice
Dec 11 2012, 07:03 AM
Rashido
Dec 11 2012, 06:58 AM
Family pets can mean just as much as a person. If someone literally offered me a billion dollars to abandon my dog, I would spit in their face. Relationships transcend material objects, at least for me.
Same here, I'd kill a human before even thinking of killing my husky.
You guys are sociopathic monsters, (I guess a am on an internet forum)...but I truly presume you would think differently if it actually came to that.
I honestly don't care how my reply is in your view. But I'm serious about that post.
What on Earth??? I realize your dog is of great value to you and what not but you'd rather kill a man with a family who genuinely strived to do good, was a law abiding citizen, organ donor, and volunteered his free time as a motivational speaker for those suffering with terminal illness before you killed your dog? Wow.......................I understand you love your dog but the humanity of it..................
Why he can't be a criminal?
becuase you said "a human" right? My example is a human isn't he? If you meant some awful, poor excuse for a human being you should have said so
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If a human tried to hurt my Boxer Dog i would severely beat him up!!! If he tried to kill her i would kill him..............

If he or indeed she kiilled my Boxer Dog i would kill him and 1 or 2 others close to him!!!!!!!!!!!

My Boxer Dog is better than some humans!!!!!!!!
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Ausar
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Ok, I agree that it should be based on an individual, but there are some nuts out there who don't care who the person is. PETA literally said they value lab rats over the millions of children with cancer, AIDS, etc. They don't care if animal experimentation will save human lives, the only species of animal they don't care about is Homo sapiens. And don't even get me started on that blasted Voluntary Human Extinction Movement. THEY truly are monsters.
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Dec 11 2012, 10:48 AM
Ok, I agree that it should be based on an individual, but there are some nuts out there who don't care who the person is. PETA literally said they value lab rats over the millions of children with cancer, AIDS, etc. They don't care if animal experimentation will save human lives, the only species of animal they don't care about is Homo sapiens. And don't even get me started on that blasted Voluntary Human Extinction Movement. THEY truly are monsters.
Source for these statements?
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“Even if animal tests produced a cure for AIDS, we’d be against it.”
— PETA president and co-founder Ingrid Newkirk, in the September 1989 issue of Vogue, Sep 1989
http://www.consumerfreedom.com/2004/02/2343-the-peta-principle-lab-rats-over-sick-kids/

Edited by Ausar, Dec 11 2012, 11:11 AM.
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