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Do you believe animals are equal to humans?
Topic Started: Dec 10 2012, 11:41 AM (15,917 Views)
Ausar
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Dec 11 2012, 10:19 PM
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Dec 10 2012, 11:59 AM
To be honest, I personally do not think animals are equal to us because I value my own species more. Yes I know we are animals too. But think about it, other animals don't care about us do they? If a mother rhinoceros saw that a human baby and her own baby was being attacked by a lion, who do think she's going to save? Her own offspring of course. Hopefully someone will save the human baby too. It's not speciesism, it's just that we care about our own species more than others, just like all other animals. It's just something in us humans that hasn't changed since we were just Australopithecus. I'm not saying you shouldn't mind other species. (You should care for them too). I'm saying there's nothing wrong with valuing your own species the most.
I agree with you. However, I don't think I would kill my beloved little cat to save a piece of shit, like a murderer or rapist or a heartless rich exploiter son-of-a-bitch. Or a politically correct liberal btw LOL
I'd rather save my two pet fish rather than a murdering, child-molesting faggot.
Edited by Ausar, Dec 12 2012, 10:00 AM.
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Vivec
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Look into a puppies eyes and honestly say "you're less significant and important than me because you can't talk, you have no soul". I'd rather save my dog than some idiot's baby.
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Same here,i would much rather save my 5 year old Boxer Dog Jasmine than some idiot's baby aswell,she is my child,intelligent,gives out unconditional love,has her own mind,i am thankfull to have her in my life everyday.
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Dec 12 2012, 05:55 AM
Look into a puppies eyes and honestly say "you're less significant and important than me because you can't talk, you have no soul". I'd rather save my dog than some idiot's baby.
What if it WASN'T your dog, and what if it was YOUR baby?
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cidermaster
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Well if i had a baby along with my boxer dog,if anything happened to either it would be equally terrible.

If you look after a Dog properly it is part of the family,as is a human child,in my view they are just as important as each other.

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cidermaster
Dec 12 2012, 06:05 AM
Same here,i would much rather save my 5 year old Boxer Dog Jasmine than some idiot's baby aswell,she is my child,intelligent,gives out unconditional love,has her own mind,i am thankfull to have her in my life everyday.
their love is actual quite conditional, if you abuse or neglect a puppy it won't love you anymore. On the other hand their stories of elderly mothers who have children that neglected to care for them in their sickness and old age yet they still love their child with every fiber of their being. Now that is true unconditional love, a quality you can only find in a human. Not that it necessarily gives us a right to abuse animals.
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Dec 12 2012, 06:15 AM
Well if i had a baby along with my boxer dog,if anything happened to either it would be equally terrible.

If you look after a Dog properly it is part of the family,as is a human child,in my view they are just as important as each other.

That's pretty sad, when you grow up and have a son when he's about 7 I want you to tell him he's worth about as much to you as the family dog. He'll be totally shattered. I know i would feel like a piece of crap if my dad told me that.
Edited by Wild, Dec 12 2012, 06:22 AM.
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Dec 12 2012, 06:12 AM
ZetaQuetzalcoatlus
Dec 12 2012, 05:55 AM
Look into a puppies eyes and honestly say "you're less significant and important than me because you can't talk, you have no soul". I'd rather save my dog than some idiot's baby.
What if it WASN'T your dog, and what if it was YOUR baby?
I would treat it the same, I would still rather save it, and since I'm asexual and am planning on staying by myself I couldn't give one half of a crap about a baby, I would rather save my Beagle than 100000 humans if i had to choose.
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cidermaster
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Plenty of neglect goes on between humans and plenty of violence and abuse.Humans plan to hurt one another,set out to be evil.

That said there are also thankfully a good number of decent people aswell.

Alot can be said of bring up both dogs and humans with love and total respect,alot can be said of that.
Edited by cidermaster, Dec 12 2012, 06:25 AM.
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Well that 7 year old boy may well love the dog as much as me.

I know of a number of people who regard there dog as important as the humans in their family,true many more do not.

But the joy me and my Boxer Dog have,going on walks,playing,seeing wildlife is priceless.

Funny enough i have just recently met a cool lady who regards her dog as i regard mine(she is very attractive,which is just as cool!) Anyway its early days,but there is a chance we may build up a cool relationship.
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Dec 12 2012, 06:29 AM
Well that 7 year old boy may well love the dog as much as me.

I know of a number of people who regard there dog as important as the humans in their family,true many more do not.

But the joy me and my Boxer Dog have,going on walks,playing,seeing wildlife is priceless.

Funny enough i have just recently met a cool lady who regards her dog as i regard mine(she is very attractive,which is just as cool!) Anyway its early days,but there is a chance we may build up a cool relationship.
Good for you dude!
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cidermaster
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Cheers Rashido!!!!
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cidermaster
Dec 12 2012, 06:29 AM
Well that 7 year old boy may well love the dog as much as me.

I know of a number of people who regard there dog as important as the humans in their family,true many more do not.

But the joy me and my Boxer Dog have,going on walks,playing,seeing wildlife is priceless.

Funny enough i have just recently met a cool lady who regards her dog as i regard mine(she is very attractive,which is just as cool!) Anyway its early days,but there is a chance we may build up a cool relationship.
That's great, good luck.
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Fragillimus335
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Seriously, you guys are all freaks, I thought this forum was for people who like animals, not for antisocial murderers. Try to re-evaluate your interpersonal relationships...
Edited by Fragillimus335, Dec 12 2012, 07:04 AM.
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Fragillimus335
Dec 12 2012, 06:57 AM
Seriously, you guys are all freaks, I thought this forum was for people who like animals, not for antisocial murderers. Try to re-evaluate your interpersonal relationships...
Yeah, you would think this place would be full of people who value humans over animals. But, nothin' I can do about it.
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