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Who wins?
African Wild Dog (pack of 3) 11 (52.4%)
Greater Kudu 10 (47.6%)
Total Votes: 21
African Wild Dog (pack of 3) v Greater Kudu
Topic Started: Dec 18 2012, 05:17 PM (3,333 Views)
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African Wild Dog (pack of 3) - Lycaon pictus
Lycaon pictus is a large canid found only in Africa, especially in savannas and lightly wooded areas. It is variously called the African wild dog, African hunting dog, Cape hunting dog, painted dog, painted wolf, painted hunting dog, spotted dog, or ornate wolf. he scientific name "Lycaon pictus" is derived from the Greek for "wolf" and the Latin for "painted". It is the only canid species to lack dewclaws on the forelimbs. This is the largest African canid and, behind only the gray wolf, is the world's second largest extant wild canid. Adults typically weigh 18–36 kilograms (40–79 lb). A tall, lean animal, it stands about 75 cm (30 in) at the shoulder, with a head and body length of 75–141 cm (30–56 in) plus a tail of 30 to 45 cm (12 to 18 in). Animals in southern Africa are generally larger than those in eastern or western Africa. There is little sexual dimorphism, though judging by skeletal dimensions, males are usually 3-7% larger. The African wild dog's main prey varies among populations but always centers around medium-to-large sized ungulates, such as the impala, Thomson's Gazelle, Springbok, kudu, reedbuck, and wildebeest calves. The most frequent single prey species depends upon season and local availability. For example, in the Serengeti in the 1970s wildebeest (mostly calves) were the most frequently taken species (57%) from January to June, but Thompsons gazelle were the most frequently taken (79%) during the rest of the year.

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Greater Kudu - Tragelaphus strepsiceros
The greater kudu (Tragelaphus strepsiceros) is a woodland antelope found throughout eastern and southern Africa. Despite occupying such widespread territory, they are sparsely populated in most areas, due to a declining habitat, deforestation and hunting. Male greater kudus tend to be much larger than the females, and vocalize much more, utilizing low grunts, clucks, humming, and gasping. The males also have large manes running along their throats, and large horns with two and a half twists, which, were they to be straightened, would reach an average length of 120 cm (47 in), with the record being 187.64 cm (73.87 in). This is one of the largest species of antelope. Males weigh 190–270 kg (420–600 lb), with a maximum of 315 kg (690 lb), and stand up to 160 cm (63 in) tall at the shoulder. The ears of the greater kudu are large and round. Females weigh 120–210 kg (260–460 lb) and stand as little as 100 cm (39 in) tall at the shoulder; they are hornless, without a beard or nose markings. The head-and-body length is 185–245 cm (6.07–8.04 ft), to which the tail may add a further 30–55 cm (12–22 in).

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Gregoire
Dec 18 2012, 02:14 AM
kudu vs 2 bully kuttas


What about some wild dogs instead.
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Gregoire
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male kudu would destroy 3 dogs IMO. its too large
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Dexterous
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Is it a 220kg male kudu, or a 150kg female kudu?
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yigit05
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kudu win weight,size avantage,horn,hoof
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Wild Dogs win, if these are three healthy males in their prime the kudu is dead. They have numbers on their side, they'll be able to dash and run around the kudu. The confused and frightened antelope might turn to chase one but another would come behind it immediately. Kudus don't seem to use their hooves often when being targeted, I've seen plenty of videos of AWD's disemboweling them from behind and not a single one suffering kicks. I see this playing out kind of like this except with less AWD's:





the kudu won't know which one to go at.



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Dexterous
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It took five adult dogs to bring down a 100kg nyala bull...





I don't think three could handle a healthy adult 220kg male kudu. Even with

a kudu cow it's a stretch IMO


5-6 should cover it comfortably though...

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Dogs win.

Crap i just voted for the bloody Kudu!!! rolleyes
Edited by FelinePowah, Dec 18 2012, 10:10 PM.
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Kudu wins.
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Everything else is just a dog.
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Gregoire
Dec 18 2012, 05:29 PM
male kudu would destroy 3 dogs IMO. its too large
You suggested 2 bully kutta's, may I ask why?
The advantages the smaller predators would need all favor the AWD over the bk, speed to dodge blows, endurance to stretch it out, versatile jaws to disembowel or sever ligaments. I'd say two awds would do better than 2 bully kutta's in this matchup. I'd also favor 3 awds over the kudu.
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Greater Kudu are significantly preferred as prey items for A.W.Ds, second to Impala in Kruger.
One Wild Dog can take out a Greater Kudu cow - from accounts in their profile and in this study - and 3 could probably deal with a bull.
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FelinePowah
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If we compare Antelope to Deer id say deer are the more formidable and more likley to use there hooves in a fight.
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Fragillimus335
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The Kudu is pretty freakin big, this fight is like 3 de-clawed lions taking on a 2 ton elephant. I'd tend to favor the Kudu.
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I think even just 3 AWDs would take this. They prey on kudu.
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Not very sure, I am probably gonna back the Kudu.
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I think 3 dogs are too much
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