Lions v Hyenas

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Lions v Hyenas; Pictures & Videos
Tweet Topic Started: Jan 7 2012, 03:36 AM (18,789 Views)
Canidae	Aug 26 2012, 06:54 PM Post #46
Omnivore Posts: 1,350 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: Jan 7, 2012	221extra Aug 26 2012, 04:38 PM Taipan Aug 26 2012, 03:50 PM Canidae Aug 25 2012, 11:28 PM kuri Aug 25 2012, 11:23 PM normal cat behaviour. My garden is often "full" of half dead animals. (mice..birds) Nobody is saying hyaenas are lion-proof nor made of adamantium, but they can survive a Lion attack intended to kill them and have done on multiple occasions. But this is already in the 'Lion vs hyaenas' video / image gallery thread. The play dead rather than fight behaviour of hyenas has saved them on other occassions too. Must be an evolutionary adaptation to help them survive alongside felines. The Hyena appeared to be somewhat paralyzed after the initial male Lion attack & please elaborate on this 'play dead' theory of yours. & I apologize Canidae as this is the most active I've been in a very long time & I really had no idea what was in the vid/pic gallery tbh. Not a problem. In some instances, Hyaenidae will play dead (thanatosis) when captured by a larger and / or multiple predators, most prevalently Striped Hyaenas do this. Whether it is a physical reaction or something the hyaena does mentally I'm unsure. Some hyaenas act aggressively when attacked, when others play dead, so what causes which is unknown. Maybe applying a throat hold could have something to do with thanatosis though.



221Extra	Aug 26 2012, 11:35 PM Post #47
Deny, deny, deny. Posts: 1,830 Group: Members Member #40 Joined: Jan 11, 2012	Canidae Aug 26 2012, 06:54 PM 221extra Aug 26 2012, 04:38 PM Taipan Aug 26 2012, 03:50 PM Canidae Aug 25 2012, 11:28 PM kuri Aug 25 2012, 11:23 PM normal cat behaviour. My garden is often "full" of half dead animals. (mice..birds) Nobody is saying hyaenas are lion-proof nor made of adamantium, but they can survive a Lion attack intended to kill them and have done on multiple occasions. But this is already in the 'Lion vs hyaenas' video / image gallery thread. The play dead rather than fight behaviour of hyenas has saved them on other occassions too. Must be an evolutionary adaptation to help them survive alongside felines. The Hyena appeared to be somewhat paralyzed after the initial male Lion attack & please elaborate on this 'play dead' theory of yours. & I apologize Canidae as this is the most active I've been in a very long time & I really had no idea what was in the vid/pic gallery tbh. Not a problem. In some instances, Hyaenidae will play dead (thanatosis) when captured by a larger and / or multiple predators, most prevalently Striped Hyaenas do this. Whether it is a physical reaction or something the hyaena does mentally I'm unsure. Some hyaenas act aggressively when attacked, when others play dead, so what causes which is unknown. Maybe applying a throat hold could have something to do with thanatosis though. Wow I had no clue I thought these few spotted hyenas that appeared to play dead actually lost consciousness. I guess it makes sense that Striped Hyenas do so since their smaller size & since their less social as well as Brown Hyenas I'm sure to a lesser extent.



Canidae	Aug 27 2012, 12:13 AM Post #48
Omnivore Posts: 1,350 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: Jan 7, 2012	From a youtube scouring - Hyaenas displace Lionesses until Male Lion arrives and mauls clan member : Hyaenas vs. Lionesses - when a Lioness grabs one the clan rush to its rescue! Hyaenas displace Lionesses from Eland carcass : From Caught in the Act - Hyaenas displace wounded male Lion : Hyaenas displace young male Lion coalition : 'Majingilane Murder' Londolozi video, 4 male Lion coalition kill hyaena : Edited by Canidae, Aug 27 2012, 12:15 AM.



Taipan	Aug 27 2012, 06:20 PM Post #49
Administrator Posts: 18,011 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Feb 25, 2011	221extra Aug 26 2012, 04:38 PM Taipan Aug 26 2012, 03:50 PM Canidae Aug 25 2012, 11:28 PM kuri Aug 25 2012, 11:23 PM normal cat behaviour. My garden is often "full" of half dead animals. (mice..birds) Nobody is saying hyaenas are lion-proof nor made of adamantium, but they can survive a Lion attack intended to kill them and have done on multiple occasions. But this is already in the 'Lion vs hyaenas' video / image gallery thread. The play dead rather than fight behaviour of hyenas has saved them on other occassions too. Must be an evolutionary adaptation to help them survive alongside felines. The Hyena appeared to be somewhat paralyzed after the initial male Lion attack & please elaborate on this 'play dead' theory of yours. Its not my theory its a fact, as I explained to Canidae here: Taipan May 27 2012, 02:40 PM Canidae May 27 2012, 02:41 AM Agentjaguar May 27 2012, 02:22 AM That sucks, I wanted to see the actual fight of how the leopard kills the hyena. It looked from the scene like a throat bite, so I'd say suffocation. Interestingly Spotted / Brown hyenas have survived suffocation attempts by Lionesses / Leopards, so the Striped is likely less robust - but still evidently very tough from baiting incidents. Its called thanatosis, "playing dead". and its a defence mechanism exhibited by Hyenas and other animals like oppossums when threatened/attacked. See you're learning 221!



ImperialDino	Aug 28 2012, 03:18 PM Post #50
Omnivore Posts: 1,533 Group: Members Member #146 Joined: Jan 25, 2012	Amphicyon Jun 25 2012, 03:53 AM Hyena durability is overrated. Sure they can survive horrific attacks and neck bites but they lay there limply while it is applied and afterward, I fail to see its relevance as an advantage in a fight unless you expect the competitor to lose interest before killing the hyena. Their durability IS NOT overrated. Every seen a lioness kill a Hyena? NO. Hyenas in comparison to Lions are not big animals. A similiar sized animal would never kill a Hyena, just give it bite marks.



Vita	Aug 28 2012, 05:55 PM Post #51
Cave Canem Posts: 3,563 Group: Members Member #32 Joined: Jan 9, 2012	MightyKharza Jul 14 2012, 09:18 PM I'm actually surprised the hyena got away, considering the lion was using exactly the same attack method Ntchwaidumela used (grabbing the hyena by the back of the neck and lying on the ground). It got away because the male lion let it go to chase away the others.



Deleted User	Aug 29 2012, 05:12 PM Post #52
Deleted User	I dare to say Hyena durability is overrated cause Lion killingpower is overrated Really just look it up death by Lion often takes longer then death by other Felines
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Jerrico	Aug 29 2012, 05:31 PM Post #53
Autotrophic Organism Posts: 65 Group: Members Member #72 Joined: Jan 13, 2012	MazterKuzuma Aug 29 2012, 05:12 PM Really just look it up death by Lion often takes longer then death by other Felines Because lions hunt the largest animals in the world maybe?Or are you insinuating that somehow, the lions are the weakest killers among the big cats? Edited by Jerrico, Aug 29 2012, 05:33 PM.



Deleted User	Aug 29 2012, 05:39 PM Post #54
Deleted User	Jerrico Aug 29 2012, 05:31 PM MazterKuzuma Aug 29 2012, 05:12 PM Really just look it up death by Lion often takes longer then death by other Felines Because lions hunt the largest animals in the world maybe?Or are you insinuating that somehow, the lions are the weakest killers among the big cats? Compare the footages of Leopards killing larger victems swiftly and instanly to the footages of group of lions chewing trough victems who are still very much alive happens with both larger as smaller victems
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Jerrico	Aug 29 2012, 05:46 PM Post #55
Autotrophic Organism Posts: 65 Group: Members Member #72 Joined: Jan 13, 2012	MazterKuzuma Aug 29 2012, 05:39 PM Jerrico Aug 29 2012, 05:31 PM MazterKuzuma Aug 29 2012, 05:12 PM Really just look it up death by Lion often takes longer then death by other Felines Because lions hunt the largest animals in the world maybe?Or are you insinuating that somehow, the lions are the weakest killers among the big cats? Compare the footages of Leopards killing larger victems swiftly and instanly to the footages of group of lions chewing trough victems who are still very much alive happens with both larger as smaller victems Well, the lion pride start to feed when the prey is still alive because there are many mouths there. They sense when the victim it's pretty much incapacitated and they already start feeding for an individual advance. It's a tough world you know? Anyway, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebFvVieeJwM Notice that only one lioness made the kill, and it looked darn swift and acrobatic, don't you think? Edited by Jerrico, Aug 29 2012, 05:55 PM.



Deleted User	Oct 28 2012, 05:07 AM Post #56
Deleted User	hey found a quite new video of two hyenas attacking what seems too me like a adult lioness and stealing her pray. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqcYMqK3KLc&feature=related
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FelinePowah	Oct 28 2012, 05:21 AM Post #57
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FireCrown	Oct 28 2012, 05:25 AM Post #58
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Canidae	Oct 28 2012, 05:46 AM Post #59
Omnivore Posts: 1,350 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: Jan 7, 2012	Interesting videos all, the 2 hyaenas vs lioness one was quite impressive on the hyaenas behalf, and also on the Lioness' if that was a buffalo kill. A badly malnurished (possibly young?) lioness attempting to steal a hyaena kill in Kruger :



Ophiophagy	Oct 28 2012, 06:59 AM Post #60
Kleptoparasite Posts: 1,980 Group: Members Member #241 Joined: Mar 16, 2012	lioness seem kinda cowardly or something i dont know why hyena dont respect them. Edited by Ophiophagy, Oct 28 2012, 07:10 AM.



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