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Where would a pack of BULLY KUTTA be ranked on the predator hieracy in India
Topic Started: Jan 18 2013, 10:06 AM (16,803 Views)
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The bully kutta wouldn't survive very long. Fighting breeds would do horrible in the wild.
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Why would Bully Kutta's decimate the jackal population. Jackals have lived along side dholes, so they must know how to keep there head down.
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no they are too stupid to survive sorry


they don't have survival skills the other mutts asia have they will not live long close to people and they will NEVER survive in the wild get your head out of your ass. A fighting breed is the worst for the wild they would starve so fast unless they started killing peoples livestock and then they will just be killed by humans in the first week.


THey would never live off wild animals they cannot catch them, they would get sick from eating dead animals and garbage the stomachs would not be able to handle it like a true street mutt that eats rats, bugs, shit, garbage anything. THey would die from always fighting other dogs also very fast from their wounds no vet to help them. They would NEVER Form a pack they would end up killing and eating each other. Until there is 1 or 2 dogs left that are so bloody and cripple.


WOuld be VERY easy meal for any animal that wants to eat them

LEopards Eat ANY DOG they want that they can get close to at night that is why every guard dog in leopard area wwears a spiked collar doesnt matter the breed.
Edited by Ophiophagy, Jan 23 2013, 04:23 AM.
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Jan 23 2013, 04:14 AM
no they are too stupid to survive sorry


they don't have survival skills the other mutts asia have they will not live long close to people and they will NEVER survive in the wild get your head out of your ass. A fighting breed is the worst for the wild they would starve so fast unless they started killing peoples livestock and then they will just be killed by humans in the first week.


THey would never live off wild animals they cannot catch them, they would get sick from eating dead animals and garbage the stomachs would not be able to handle it like a true street mutt that eats rats, bugs, shit, garbage anything. THey would die from always fighting other dogs also very fast from their wounds no vet to help them. They would NEVER Form a pack they would end up killing and eating each other. Until there is 1 or 2 dogs left that are so bloody and cripple.


WOuld be VERY easy meal for any animal that wants to eat them

LEopards Eat ANY DOG they want that they can get close to at night that is why every guard dog in leopard area wwears a spiked collar doesnt matter the breed.
Leopards don't encounter powerful dog breeds. Every dog the Leopard encounters a little 45 Pitbull would also kill. Let's not pretend as if the Leopard is encountering Bully Kutta's, Kangals, Central Asian Sheperds or Caucasion Ovcharkas ok.

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You all need to really be specific when you say leopards eat "dogs" because all dog breeds are not created equal. Leopards will even attack a pack of those mutts up above. How does the Leopard react when faced with a pack of these guys??!

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IN FACT Poison you may even be on the menu with a pack of highly organized Bully Kuttas on the prowl!!
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Jan 22 2013, 05:01 PM
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Canidae posted some great articles on feral dogs successfully hunting deer on the fringes of an Indian wildlife park, a bully kutta could certainly bring down a chital, whether they would do so with any regularity is another story. These dogs could eke out a living in the Indian forests, there size would deter dholes but they would also be a food source for indian leopards, who are renowned as dog eaters. <br /><br />The raising of pups would be another issue, in an area with so many snakes and jackals it would be difficult.<br /><br />These dogs would really benefit from a human settlement nearby with easy to catch livestock and accessible garbage, without that I would give them slim chances of survival.


Bully Kutta would decimate the Jackal population
One small pack of bully kuttas decimate an entire population? Doesn't seem likely to me.
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they are not organized they are stupid and will killl each other

Leopards encounter and kill all sorts of guard dogs in the mountains of nepal they love dog meat
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they are not organized they are stupid and will killl each other

Leopards encounter and kill all sorts of guard dogs in the mountains of nepal they love dog meat'

imperial are you a 12 year old boy or something you know nothing about how certain dog breeds work even and how they would survive. This breed is not made to survive it will die very quick it will self destruct you moron.
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These dogs would have a hard time not decimating their own population through infighting. Furthermore, there lack of concern for pain makes them prone to injury with no human to rescue them. Furthermore, these dogs were bred to fight other dogs, not to hunt, so there instincts are not as sharp as other dog breeds.

To sum up, they wold not even rank in the carnivoran hierarchy, because they would not last long enough.
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Jan 25 2013, 10:49 AM
they are not organized they are stupid and will killl each other

Leopards encounter and kill all sorts of guard dogs in the mountains of nepal they love dog meat
You idiots looked at my post from the wrong aspect. I was speaking from the level of an "experiment", as too where the bully kutta would be on the food chain. It's very possible that a pack of 4 brothers and 4 sisters Bully Kutta's could get along with each other. There was a case in America where a 4 pack of Rottweilers were terrorizing an area.

Again, we know Leopards can beat Bully Kutta's 1 on 1, but they DO NOT encounter powerful dog breeds. Majority of the dogs in Nepal and India are malnourished weaklings. It wouldn't be a smart move for a male leopard to take on more then 1 Bully Kutta and if a female does it she's dead.
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you moron you still dont know shit about dogs do you?

What do you think happens when a litter of brothers or sisters starts to mature ? THey fight viciously. WHat do you think when a alpha bitch's litter starts to mature? she will start to attack them viciously. You are so stupid go back to dog school you idiot. ONCe pups are wheened and start to mature that brother sister love or mother pup love dies and they kill each other.

THis does not stop at even dog fighting breeds always even a dog breed that is known to very dominant or same sex aggressive my bitch would hurt and brutalize maybe even kill her own pups when they start to mature and piss her off. Brothers and sisters will kill each other very quick. You are too stupid to talk about this wow.


The leopard will never have to kill any of these dogs you know why? cause they will kill each other lol


a rottie is not a dog fighting dog and a rottie is fat and slow and would die in 2 seconds in the wild. THe rottie can terrorize people and kill livestock thats it. If they went into the jungle they will starve and start eating each other. ROtties have nO real hunting skills they are fat and slow and shit hunters. THey are worse than gsds and dobermans when it comes to be fit for survival. They can bond together and form a pack and go killl some people and some goats thats about it. They get into the jungle they will die and have to eat each other.

To survive in a jungle you need the cunning like a coyote. Some of these street bred naturally bred ferals have it. Once in a blue moon a smart purebred dog figures out how to do it on its own but these purebreds are not dog fighting dogs or hunting dogs they are like mutts or poodles or labs just dogs that figure out secrets and surivival skills. They use their brain.
Edited by Ophiophagy, Jan 26 2013, 10:42 AM.
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That example you posted about the 4 rottweilers is irrelevant, they were in an environment with readily available human food. The dogs in your experiment would need to be totally self sufficient, no human food to bail them out. These dogs are capable of killing deer, catching them is another story, they may take down the odd one but never enough to really be considered serious predators.

I highly doubt that they would be able to successfully raise pups and some would fall prey to leopards.

They could make ends meet for probably a few months until they all died one way or another.
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Jan 22 2013, 04:52 PM
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without the time of increasing the pack the dogs will die in less than a week
More inferior feral dogs have succeeded in the wild, like 40 pound muts, but a pack of 100 pound monsters like the Bully Kutta would die in a week? LOL
indeed lesser need of food for smaller dogs
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they will quickly turn on each other in the first few days even if they kinda got along before, dogs like this do not have a high tolerance for each other in these aggressive breeds in a few days of being hungry they will be at each others throats and eye sockets when their tempers start to flare. Imperial has no experience with dogs like this he is clueless how it works. WHen they start fighting its not going to be 2 dogs arguing it will be a blood bath. Imperial thinks these dogs are going to treat each other like lassie and have a wolf like pack bond lmao THey will NEVER defend each other from a stronger aniimal either each dog will be on its own. Once in a rare blue moon you get a dog willing to defend another dog or cat but that is rare as hell and it would never be this breed. This breed would rather eat the dog than defend it.


if a leopard killed one it would probably wait for scraps and then eat what the leopard didnt eat.
Edited by Ophiophagy, Jan 28 2013, 02:48 AM.
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Poison, you are making some pretty extraordinary claims. The only dogs I've heard about that won't form pack bonds with other dogs are in instances where fighting dogs have been SERIOUSLY overly selectively bred. Then they aren't even safe with humans no matter how skilled the dog trainer. Bully Kuttas aren't as a breed that dog. Hell, the vast majority of APBTs aren't that dog. Your going to need some extraordinary evidence to back up what your saying.
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Many of you are missing the point of this post. We all know Bully Kutta's don't have "wild intelligence" to be able to avoid danger etc...I was asking based on PHYSICAL PROWESS, where would a pack of 8 Bully Kutta's be on the food chain.

We know that they probably aren't smart enough to have 2-3 Bully Kutta's watch the pups while the others go off to "hunt" (scavenge), but that wasn't the bases of my question.
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